From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-z (Re: Two GTK related feature requests) Date: 26 Oct 2003 14:01:50 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87oew8so3g.fsf@cs.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067195056 17511 80.91.224.253 (26 Oct 2003 19:04:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 26 20:04:14 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ADqBS-0001wv-00 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:04:14 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ADqBR-0005am-00 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:04:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ADqAw-0002Hs-KA for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:03:42 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ADq9q-0001tG-LB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:02:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ADq9I-0001Yh-V3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:02:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ADq9I-0001Y5-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:02:00 -0500 Original-Received: from vor.iro.umontreal.ca (vor.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.42]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QJ1onR002038; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:01:50 -0500 Original-Received: by vor.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3892F3C63E; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:01:50 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Karl Eichwalder In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17443 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17443 > Reminds me... I'd like to see C-z de-assigned from > iconify-or-deiconify-frame. Agreed. It's very rarely useful, but often annoying. Also it's completely non-standard, except that it tries to simulate the tty behavior, which seems wrongheaded because iconify-frame rarely brings you back to the "parent shell" or anything vaguely related. But admittedly, the C-z key sequence should keep its meaning under tty-use, so its new binding under X (and w32) should be one that is not meaningful on a tty. Stefan