From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release timelines and Unicode2 branch Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:35:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <62DD76A1-D1A5-4B7B-A9C0-6E95A3D09F52@cogsci.ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1126554194 7339 80.91.229.2 (12 Sep 2005 19:43:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 12 21:43:13 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EEuCE-0002Ve-S0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:42:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EEuCE-0001wW-3S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:42:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EEu8d-0000OT-Bb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EEu8V-0000Kh-H6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:38:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EEu8T-0000FC-QH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EEu60-0004Ju-Rw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:36:05 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BBA2CF4B5; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3364AC00A; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8E51AE6C18; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Adrian Robert In-Reply-To: <62DD76A1-D1A5-4B7B-A9C0-6E95A3D09F52@cogsci.ucsd.edu> (Adrian Robert's message of "Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:43:58 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-4.845, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, AWL 0.06, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:42856 Archived-At: > 1) When is the best estimate of when 22.1 will come out? Not before 2006. > My second question concerns the unicode-2 branch of CVS. As I understand I don't know much about Aqua/Cocoa/Carbon, and more specifically I don't know how different are Cocoa and Carbon, so I don't know who much of the Carbon work can be used for the Cocoa work. From the sound of your message and a few others I've seen in the past, it seems that the Carbon port is of no use for the Cocoa port. Too bad. But AFAIK the Cocoa API uses utf-8 or Unicode throughout, so I think it would make a lot of sense to start from the emacs-unicode branch. That will also help you avoid having to play catch up. OTOH if the work can be expected to take in the order of a few months only (i.e. a large part of the work you've done on 20.7 can be reused with little or no changes), it would also make sense to start from the current HEAD (to be 22.1). In any case I think such an effort should aim to be included in the official Emacs release. Stefan