From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shift-movement selection Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:40:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d4q8sq9c.fsf@jurta.org> <8763w0n393.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <871w6ounk0.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87ablacdxt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87skyzzeng.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87fxuyobxt.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <47D56474.9000300@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205260898 21456 80.91.229.12 (11 Mar 2008 18:41:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, storm@cua.dk, miles@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 11 19:42:05 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZ9Q6-000768-SR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:41:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZ9PX-0003sU-OY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:41:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZ9P1-0003g1-LI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:40:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZ9Oz-0003fB-Qz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:40:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZ9Oz-0003f7-L5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:40:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZ9Os-0000I2-9b; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:40:34 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024892CF9EB; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:40:34 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16453FE0; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:40:26 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DAD416CAA2; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:40:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:25:33 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92175 Archived-At: > Or am I misunderstanding? Do you say that only commands that have this > particular `interactive' spec should activate/deactivate the mark > (depending on whether the shift key was used or not)? > In general it is not clean for a command's behavior to depend on the > keys that invoked it. A given command should do a given thing; > then users can make any key do that thing, by binding it to that command. But the feature we're talking about is specifically trying to change the behavior of those commands depending on whether they're triggered by a key with or without a shift modifier. I.e. it's inherent to the desired functionality. Stefan