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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bookkeeping to prepare for a 64-bit EMACS_INT on 32-bit hosts
Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 15:12:09 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvipttc6zz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DBED72D.9070207@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Mon, 02 May 2011 09:09:17 -0700")

>>>>> >>> > -      /* The EMACS_INT cast avoids a warning. */
>>>>> >>> > +      EMACS_INTPTR ii = i;
>>>>> >>> > +      gpointer gi = (gpointer) ii;
>>>> >> Is there a particular reason why you use an intermediate var rather
>>>> >> than use the more concise "(gpointer) (EMACS_INTPTR) i"?
>>> > To avoid a cast.
>> I'm not sure what is the formal definition of "cast" in C, but at least
>> from my point of view, your code performs just the same kind of coercion
>> as a cast.

> The runtime behavior is the same, but avoiding the cast can catch more
> errors.  Suppose "i" is of type "struct tm *", say, and the programmer
> made a mistake.  Then GCC will issue a helpful diagnostic for the form
> with just one cast, but it won't diagnose the more-concise form with
> two casts.

Right, implicit coercions are indeed checked more thoroughly since the
programmer doesn't say explicitly to shut up.

My favorite choice would be to force all casts to have a more easily to
find shape (e.g. so `grep' can find them) and to split them into various
categories, so the above EMACS_INTPTR cast would be labeled as
"checked" or "safe", so the compiler can output warnings.

>>> > If you prefer conciseness to avoiding these casts, I can easily change
>>> > these to the more-concise form.
>> I do prefer the more concise form, and paradoxically part of the reason
>> is because it is uses a explicit coercion rather than an implicit one.
> OK, will do (unless the above argument convinced you :-).

Given that

  #define checked_cast(t,x) ({ t v = (x); v})

can't be written in ISO C (AFAIK), I either form will be suboptimal,
so there's no need to change the code.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-02 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-29  8:08 bookkeeping to prepare for a 64-bit EMACS_INT on 32-bit hosts Paul Eggert
2011-04-29  8:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-29  9:06   ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-29  9:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-29 16:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-29 17:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-29 17:32         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-29 17:45           ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-29 18:50         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-04-30  5:00           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-30  1:37       ` Paul Eggert
2011-05-02 14:46         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-02 16:09           ` Paul Eggert
2011-05-02 18:12             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-05-02 19:23               ` Paul Eggert
2011-05-02 19:49                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-30  6:54     ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-30  7:30       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-29  8:56 ` support " Paul Eggert

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