From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:44:12 -0300 Message-ID: References: <8762ptue8r.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k4e8ucw3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87liyofwxp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o5cfui5.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87liyndz5l.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1307738733 31439 80.91.229.12 (10 Jun 2011 20:45:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:45:33 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 10 22:45:29 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QV8a8-0000SQ-G0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:45:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42621 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QV8a7-0007vN-EX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:45:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55102) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QV8Z0-0007jd-0B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:44:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QV8Yy-0000yw-F4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:44:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:41494) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QV8Yy-0000ys-1x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:44:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [190.177.196.60] (port=15153 helo=ceviche.home) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QV8Yx-00026J-IM; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:44:15 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6FD66667EF; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:44:12 -0300 (ART) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:56:11 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140352 Archived-At: > auth-source won't create that file by default (when we get the gpg: > tokens implemented), so the only way for that file to exist is if the > user has created it explicitly. And if the user has created it > explicitly, I think it's likely that the user has already opened it to > connect to an IMAP server or the like, so it's most likely already > decoded. > If it exists, which it won't. :-) That's what I said earlier: the new scheme can make sense, but at the condition to deprecate/discourage authinfo.gpg. Stefan