From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:58:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <52FC3BEE.60604@yandex.ru> <52FCD2B4.5080006@yandex.ru> <52FD9F1D.50205@yandex.ru> <83mwhucg1h.fsf@gnu.org> <878ute589i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d2iqc84m.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqgxkcr9.fsf@yandex.ru> <834n41db0d.fsf@gnu.org> <52FE2985.4070703@yandex.ru> <831tz5daes.fsf@gnu.org> <8738jlohd6.fsf@yandex.ru> <83txc1bl83.fsf@gnu.org> <5300189A.9090208@yandex.ru> <83wqgv9fbj.fsf@gnu.org> <20140216180712.236069f6@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <83sirj9cyp.fsf@gnu.org> <20140217203145.71a849f7@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392681522 13380 80.91.229.3 (17 Feb 2014 23:58:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 23:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Jorgen Schaefer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 18 00:58:48 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WFY5H-00082f-Vv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 00:58:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45003 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFY5H-00022T-M0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:58:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45499) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFY58-00020P-5j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:58:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFY50-0001ZC-Qy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:58:38 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:58727) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFY4s-0001Vr-RY; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:58:22 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFLd/lO/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFLd/lO/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="47907463" Original-Received: from 75-119-249-78.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.249.78]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 17 Feb 2014 18:58:21 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 95614610E9; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:58:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20140217203145.71a849f7@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> (Jorgen Schaefer's message of "Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:31:45 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169725 Archived-At: > And even if someone did, it does not seem to me as if there is any kind > of interest in Emacs to decide for one particular interface and declare > it as "the way to go". But unless someone sits down and decides for > this, wheels will keep getting reinvented. Actually, there is such an interest, in the abstract. But concretely it's a lot of work and I don't know of anyone how has the energy and knowledge to do it. Consolidating hs-minor-mode and outline-minor-mode would be a good start, tho (AFAIK allout-mode is a different beast altogether). Stefan "who'd be happy to hear more about the hurdles to integration of elpy into GNU ELPA"