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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] comment-cache 223d16f 2/3: Apply `comment-depth' text properties when calling `back_comment'.
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:18:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvio0pvmjp.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: a9e9fa6b-f917-1bfc-58d8-c5b243891001@yandex.ru

> Maybe I should rephrase that: why is it important to be a lot faster than
> syntax-ppss?

Ah, I see.  I wouldn't know: I tuned syntax-ppss speed a bit when
I first wrote it, but there's a lot of room for improvement, if needed,
I think.  I haven't done any of that work because I haven't found a need
for it.

> Because speed seems to be the main advantage that Alan's proposal has.

I haven't seen any comparison of Alan's proposal with mine, so I don't
know how they compare.  Their "cost profiles" are quite a bit different
(since my patch re-uses the existing cache whereas his has to fill
another one, but his cache can give him a more immediate answer once
it's filled), so it's not clear to me.

> Would using your syntax-ppss approach instead chip away at the reported 80%
> improvement in the synthetic test, or will it be about as fast?

I'd expect it to be about "same as now" for the normal case, and "same
as Alan's" for the "famous 10s" case.

> (As an aside: we do have `comment-beginning', which delegates to
> syntax-ppss. But it doesn't seem to be widely used.)

IIUC the interesting case is the one where the Elisp code doesn't
actually care about moving outside of a comment.  Instead the need to
skip over a comment comes indirectly via parse-sexp-ignore-comments.
So calling `comment-beginning' is not really an option (and of course
`comment-beginning' does more than find the beginning, since it also
looks for the beginning of the *content* of the comment).

> The latter one gets handled in ruby-syntax-propertize, so I don't know if
> it's relevant.

It's only relevant when it does appear, which should be fairly rare.
In contrast "\n" (the comment ender for the // A comments) appears
fairly often inside a /*...*/ comment.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-14  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <E1adHdj-0000FI-0W@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2016-03-08 14:19   ` [Emacs-diffs] comment-cache 223d16f 2/3: Apply `comment-depth' text properties when calling `back_comment' Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08 18:30     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-08 18:42       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08 20:07         ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-08 21:22           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-08 21:43             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-09  0:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-09  1:54             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-09 10:49             ` Problems with syntax-ppss: Was [... Apply `comment-depth' text properties when calling `back_comment'.] Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-09 13:11               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-09 14:19                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-09 19:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-09 19:22                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-09 19:37                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-09 21:40                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 13:01                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-10 14:52                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 15:29                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-10 16:45                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 17:25                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-10 17:34                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 19:08                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-10 23:10                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-11 12:50                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-11 20:48                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-11 22:35                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-11 23:08                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-11 23:09                                               ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-11 23:31                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 23:31                                     ` John Wiegley
2016-03-11  2:08                                       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-11  3:08                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-11  7:27                           ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-11 12:08                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-11 12:30                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-11 13:04                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-11 20:21                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-12 20:19                               ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-12 20:38                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-12 20:45                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-13 14:56                                   ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-10 13:41                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-09 17:06               ` How do you check if the current point is in a comment or a string? (Was Re: Problems with syntax-ppss: Was [... Apply `comment-depth' text properties when calling `back_comment'.]) Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-09 17:24                 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-03-09 17:56                   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-09 19:19                     ` Kaushal Modi
2016-03-09 19:34                       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-10 14:28                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 15:03                       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-10 15:20                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 17:21                           ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-12 20:45                       ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-12 20:53                         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-09 16:37       ` [Emacs-diffs] comment-cache 223d16f 2/3: Apply `comment-depth' text properties when calling `back_comment' Richard Stallman
2016-03-09 17:06         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-10 21:20           ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-11  0:26             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-11 12:22               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-11 12:52                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-11 16:20                   ` Drew Adams
2016-03-09 17:48         ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-09 19:58           ` martin rudalics
2016-03-09 20:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 20:53               ` John Wiegley
2016-03-13  9:30                 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-03-13 15:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-13 16:24                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 16:27                     ` Daniel Colascione
2016-03-13 17:19                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-14  1:13                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-14 16:10                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-11 18:27             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-12 17:08             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-12 18:10               ` martin rudalics
2016-03-12 18:22                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-12 18:46                   ` martin rudalics
2016-03-12 19:36                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-13  9:26                       ` martin rudalics
2016-03-13 11:52                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-13 12:08                           ` martin rudalics
2016-03-13 12:49                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-13 13:32                               ` martin rudalics
2016-03-13 17:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 20:09                                   ` martin rudalics
2016-03-14  1:15                                   ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14  7:42                                     ` martin rudalics
2016-03-14 11:22                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-14 19:41                                         ` martin rudalics
2016-03-14 20:58                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-14 16:15                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-14 19:41                                         ` martin rudalics
2016-03-14 17:00                                       ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 19:41                                         ` martin rudalics
2016-03-14 16:09                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 18:00                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 18:41                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-12 20:56               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-12 21:29                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-12 21:59                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-12 21:58                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-12 22:16                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-13 17:59                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-13 22:49                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-14 12:51                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-15  3:14                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-14  1:13                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14  1:30                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-14  1:45                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14  2:18                             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2016-03-14 12:23                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-14 16:15                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 17:29                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-14 17:52                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 18:46                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-14 19:33                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 21:20                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-15  3:10                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-17  0:47                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-17 18:47                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-18  1:24                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-10 21:20           ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-10 22:24             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-12  1:53               ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-12  3:28                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-12 19:28                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-09 17:51         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-10 21:20           ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-10 21:38             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-12  1:53               ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-10  7:14       ` Andreas Röhler

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