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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug #25608 and the comment-cache branch
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:10:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvinoamefp.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20170214211423.GA3090@acm

> It was a case of seeing if two distinct syntax tables were "the same"
> from the point of view of literals.  In other words, they could parse
> parentheses, whitespace and so on however they liked, but comments and
> strings had to be parsed identically by both tables for them to count
> "the same".

Interesting.  Indeed, given that syntax-ppss has to pay attention to
more than comments and strings, equivalence between syntax-tables is
never something I considered.

> This is an instance where syntax-ppss's ambitions count against it - on
> any set-syntax-table syntax-ppss's caches should really be cleared,
> strictly speaking.

As you know, syntax-ppss's caching is fairly naive currently and doesn't
make enough checks to give correct results in some cases.  Changes in
the syntax-tables and in point-min being two examples discussed here.

I already suggested to fix the issue w.r.t point-min by replacing
syntax-ppss-cache with a table indexed by the value of point-min.
The same idea could be used for syntax-tables.  I.e. make
syntax-ppss-cache indexed by the combination of syntax-table and
point-min.

Another option is to provide a `with-temp-syntactic-context` macro,
which would locally bind syntax-ppss-cache to nil.  So code which needs
to temporarily use a different point-min and/or syntax-table for some
parsing&navigation work could use this macro to avoid being affected by
the normal cache as well as polluting the cache.

I use this approach of let-binding syntax-ppss-cache is sm-c-mode, for
example (and yes: it's a dirty hack since sm-c-mode shouldn't mess with
syntax-ppss's internals).

Which approach is best depends on the use: If that same syntax-table
will be reused many times (so caching between uses would be beneficial),
then indexing by syntax-table in syntax-ppss-cache is likely the better
choice, otherwise with-temp-syntactic-context is probably all you need.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-16 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-02 20:24 Bug #25608 and the comment-cache branch Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-02 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 21:51   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-02 22:15     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-03  7:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-03 17:29       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03 22:08         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-04 10:24           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  2:09             ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-06 19:24               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-07  1:42                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-07 19:21                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-14 15:28                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 16:38                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-22  2:25                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-22  3:53                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-23 14:23                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-23 14:48                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-24  7:46                                 ` Tom Tromey
2017-02-14 21:14                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-16 14:10                         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-02-18 10:44                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-18 13:49                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12  2:53               ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  8:20                 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-12 10:47                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 11:14                 ` martin rudalics
2017-02-12 15:05                   ` Andreas Röhler
2017-02-12 15:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 22:00       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  1:12         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-06 18:37           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 17:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-11 23:25           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12  0:55             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 12:05               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 13:13                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2017-02-12 15:57                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-12 17:29                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 20:35                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-13  1:47                     ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  5:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13  6:45                         ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  7:24                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13  7:59                             ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  9:25                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13 16:14                           ` Drew Adams
2017-02-13  7:05                         ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  7:16                         ` zhanghj
2017-02-13 14:57                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-12 17:49                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13 18:09                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-13 19:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-13 21:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-02 22:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-03 16:44   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03 21:53     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-04 11:02       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  1:28         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-06 19:37           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  2:08         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-06 20:01           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06 22:33             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-07 21:24               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 12:54                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-07 15:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-07 21:09               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 17:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 23:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:19   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-04  9:06     ` Andreas Röhler
2017-02-04 18:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-04 18:28       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03  7:49 ` Yuri Khan
2017-02-03 18:30   ` Andreas Röhler

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