From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Could we include diff and grep (etc.) executables on Windows? Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:53:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="166698"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Mathias Dahl Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 17 17:54:04 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iWNoJ-000hDj-UB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:54:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54788 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iWNoI-0000dQ-Gq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:54:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36478) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iWNoA-0000aN-9y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:53:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iWNo8-0006LF-Uj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:53:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:61154) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iWNo8-0006Kr-ON for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:53:52 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DCFC6449EB7; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:53:50 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7EC4D449EB5; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:53:45 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1574009625; bh=3shK7jqlKG/vd6mQ3dqmuN1oSWUvkRYqa2Iz0g8fmbk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=SwyvXLCFZGSplBBMLfgShMjrd8PWY+tzlWeV+y6tHWmk4g0W8zp7EKLCgZ0IPSrlO IKv+2B/x3G/QRGWg+LzUvfDWDT32Ao7De3ilVyaIHH0SX7bnxjDRkxeRRWjuHw96Fg QHsdCagV426hPBaATQi8r8rRWlfcbfPomPCotHiOUuhgGp/9GFNVviq+RcMiZ4GvZB OvA4ADmU65A2TDKBlOR48/Yom8pE9U1vlbPiEbAJXGXZtxJkaveTpb3FGNa5s6lx7i v5pEHcRsXYYuPmiWMqFiHhuzlQWQGFZ0A/7oj8XeNgx7YOxOTx8AZuKGhrClkp5FLP joOsQB8SfNQ/w== Original-Received: from pastel (206-248-133-142.dsl.teksavvy.com [206.248.133.142]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD20E1200C7; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:53:44 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Mathias Dahl's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2019 12:50:19 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242280 Archived-At: > Of course, if you commit to use Emacs you can make sure to install these > tools in one of several ways it can be done today (Cygwin. MSYS, natively > compiled, etc.) but users could be up and running much faster if they did > not have to do this. If you are trying out Emacs and compare it with other > editors today, where some of this are also built in but work without these > external tools, you might give up. Maybe streamlining the MSYS way to install Emacs is the easiest/best way to solve this problem? Stefan