From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "whether the global keymap C-x 4 will be replaced by a command," Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:06:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83ft9woo68.fsf@gnu.org> <87wo377wxp.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> <87wo353f77.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23371"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 15 06:07:47 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jvYhv-0005yk-As for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 06:07:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36520 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jvYhu-0003QB-DK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43336) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jvYh9-0002ay-LY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:06:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:53277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jvYh8-0004L7-3i; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:06:59 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E6AFA1001CB; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4CEFF100059; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:06:55 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1594786015; bh=W/TpXoYeGCNv3GtpJK5oK/HhslDxj8SIaKdzkFabdYI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=k4u+6CfwEszDKpCRnE87ob0NKCso1Jf5CtSf5u1xYpIHqYC3fvQkrx3YuhRZ38Osu V5N1BlyhGCgcdHFNLv2c4kKtvadvk85utaVSk2uGzdF57BfBHZeofQpWOWgao4vKuj +P4O3xkDEkLGpreeizCQpCMN28X8tvrmXc1HE2i97UlDlxkTWTlB58qd32b2acrAtT A0ofSHLEFk0OTj8J/63u5ol1WLwbsh2Rdwge+CaCOnPH/KVjqj8z45TljMz+noAKX+ otpBc3u3w61FPxuFXaUOYDVkydDlE/g2k4AW2x8dm6Evdn+oSHwCMTK6TgGV2zVfG0 7/MU6DPxF7idg== Original-Received: from asado (unknown [45.72.129.42]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0967612053A; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:06:55 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87wo353f77.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Wed, 15 Jul 2020 01:27:24 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/15 00:06:17 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252962 Archived-At: >>> This means that after binding the current ctl-x-4-map in Emacs core >>> to the other-window command, 'C-h k C-x 4' will display the help for >>> that command, not for the whole sequence 'C-h k C-x 4 C-f'. >> >> I don't think we can/should make `C-h k` read all of `C-x 4 C-f`, indeed. >> But maybe we could make the following work: `C-x 4 C-h k C-f`. > > Would it be more expected for `C-x 4 C-h k C-f` to show the help buffer > about `C-f` (forward-char) in another window? Oh, right! Stefan