From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Subversion of user chosen major mode by Emacs. [Was: My usage of imenu is broken.] Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 11:12:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86r0dmtbk2.fsf@gnu.org> <867cfbswfg.fsf@gnu.org> <86ed9jqrfp.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4854"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 30 17:13:44 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sChTL-00012l-WC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 May 2024 17:13:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sChSW-0006ng-5d; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:12:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sChSV-0006n7-4j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sChST-0005o9-Db; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:12:50 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 242F8808EE; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:12:47 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1717081966; bh=rfZyBX9Sfj56dusKnA22KwpeVt9cuOtcR9kkmvI0i34=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=YJqlYFaO8xlUqEyHpWMYjvMiQwYd/bLOb4BnOW8KDc18JjzlLW1/1K4EUvkO1DjMf 0W25pUdOATnjpOFJjDLZU2ecVJk02xt9YGPO2WvXUcj1YBlJ8fx7JshzPlN5A/W6ga 2TWl7AVDjoe39IVPTJbWN9PaLNVE9vsxbfH1znPXYaAFahU54hSaewwWi5v4Jm4dTn Sp12JmA81G+d/l/qwibnfz6plcMzYM3LXa3IBw/PtFCsrwrOVddaI6RTxICc+CtKlX ZTFAe6H/bKnMUIp3VnlT+WovRdQBIYVf32X5aaRPfP6wBv40HUVk/0V/dJHmGOABr+ xy61hPN/VwLMg== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 16917808A4; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [24.140.236.196]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE2D5120158; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:12:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <86ed9jqrfp.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 30 May 2024 17:56:26 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319755 Archived-At: >> AFAICT it is a lot more common for file-local vars to be abused to >> specify mere user preferences, than the reverse (i.e. where there really >> is a technical reason why the file should be edited with js2-mode rather >> than js-mode). > "More common", maybe. But that doesn't mean the other case doesn't > exist or is not legitimate. I don't doubt such cases exist. I personally can't think of any, tho. So, being hypothetical, I tend to consider it as a fringe problem which is OK to solve with fringe solutions. Can you point to non-hypothetical examples? Stefan