From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior? Date: 26 Jan 2004 13:22:44 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <877jzn2lk8.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <16405.8086.195634.248486@chiark.greenend.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1075141753 17981 80.91.224.253 (26 Jan 2004 18:29:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 26 19:29:07 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AlBTv-00081t-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:29:07 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AlBTv-0003gM-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:29:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AlBOT-000829-2r for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:23:29 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AlBOM-00081u-DU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:23:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AlBNp-0007tN-VA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:23:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AlBNp-0007sz-0I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:22:49 -0500 Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C6B21006; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:22:44 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id AB5458C6F9; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:22:44 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=0, requis 5) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19493 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19493 > I see much discussion, but few solutions. I see Ian's part of the discussion as just saying "we should always use mail-interactive and set sendmail's arguments to queuing". Sounds like a good solution to me. Your message seems to be about something else, but it also leads to the need to run sendmail not-in-the-background, so it goes in the same direction, i.e.: run sendmail in the foreground (telling it to queue the message) and if there's an error analyse it and report it clearly to the user (typically tellnig it that the delivery failed or that he should use smtpmail.el). Stefan