From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release schedule Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:13:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87r6qdlecf.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <85bqhg4q6w.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177305360 18246 80.91.229.12 (23 Apr 2007 05:16:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 05:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk, eliz@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 23 07:15:58 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hfqu2-0001O2-Ni for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:15:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HfqzO-0007b1-VZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:21:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hfqz0-0007Uq-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hfqyw-0007Ty-N0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hfqyw-0007Tp-9K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:20:58 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts10.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.54] helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hfqsm-0006BJ-Ho; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:14:37 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([74.12.206.245]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070423051347.FAMG1723.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@pastel.home>; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:13:47 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 168898045; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:13:47 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun\, 22 Apr 2007 23\:48\:02 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.97 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:69835 Archived-At: > If only we'd manage to get a pretest cycle finished without somebody > noticing things that "really need to" get reorganized before the > release. > It is a good thing someone noticed! It's not. I can easily come up with "something that needs reorganizing" or even with plain bugs. I don't know how long I could keep it up, but I'm pretty sure I could delay the release by a few years this way. Emacs is and has always be "approximate", allowing itself incorrect behaviors in various "corner" cases, based on the expectation that the user will notice it. The result is "a big happy mess" that's also tremendously useful. Fixing it would amount to breaking it. Stefan