From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS is the `released version' Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:17:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0705101124r72000f78xdf05d18ca815ca57@mail.gmail.com> <17991.47259.210100.801472@localhost.localdomain> <864pmfzz3c.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <17992.31731.577467.566308@localhost.localdomain> <85646rzklk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179411622 27809 80.91.229.12 (17 May 2007 14:20:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom Tromey , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 17 16:20:19 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hogq2-0001Fv-20 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:20:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hogy8-0004aV-4u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:28:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hogy3-0004ZO-5v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:28:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hogy2-0004Z4-PD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:28:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hogy2-0004Z0-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:28:34 -0400 Original-Received: from 18.red-83-50-230.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.50.230.18] helo=alfajor.home) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hognw-0003wy-RD; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:20:10 -0400 Original-Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 93BFF1C14F; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:17:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <85646rzklk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Thu\, 17 May 2007 14\:43\:35 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71247 Archived-At: >>>> The biggest benefit I see is that packages can be updated on the >>>> package maintainer's schedule. Emacs, on the other hand, is updated >>>> on the Emacs maintainers' schedule. >> >> Pleae, let's not link the issue of including a package-installer (such as >> package.el) with the issue of which packages to (un)bundle. >> These are completely separate questions. >> >> package.el is useful to deal with non-bundled packages: there are >> many of those and they're not about to be all bundled. > I would think that if we could be able to say "if you have organized > your Lisp source files in such&such a way with this&that information > in the following format in its head, then using the command > M-x package-pull-into-current RET filename.el RET > will install the file and its associated files into your currently used > Emacs. Using the command > M-x package-pull-into-source RET filename.el RET > will make it a part of your Emacs source tree (which you can then > either compile or commit). And > M-x package-update RET filename.el RET > will look up any dedicated servers declared in the comments from > filename.el and will replace it (and its associated files) by a new > version which you can then either pull into current or pull into > source. I don't see any relation with what I said. Stefan