From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Nested display strings Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:45:17 -0300 Message-ID: References: <83k4ekc3z1.fsf@gnu.org> <8339l7blfe.fsf@gnu.org> <87sjt6nmnw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83r58o99zc.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1303951528 8437 80.91.229.12 (28 Apr 2011 00:45:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 00:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 28 02:45:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QFFMC-0000XZ-I9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41610 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QFFMC-00083p-2V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:45:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54353) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QFFM9-00083Z-8Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:45:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QFFM8-0004LB-G6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:45:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:41942) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QFFM8-0004L7-EW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:45:20 -0400 Original-Received: from 121-249-126-200.fibertel.com.ar ([200.126.249.121]:2355 helo=ceviche.home) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QFFM7-0008GZ-FO; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:45:19 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9A29B660D8; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:45:17 -0300 (ART) In-Reply-To: <83r58o99zc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:51:51 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138863 Archived-At: >> A good/natural way for redisplay to signal such problems would be to >> display them directly in the window (e.g. insert some threatening >> question mark or some such, ideally with mouse-over highlighting and >> a help-echo-like text explaining the problem). > Now, _that_ is what I call "obnoxious". I have no idea why you'd find it obnoxious. After all, that's pretty much what we do for "chars we don't know how to draw", except we put a square box rather than a threatening question mark and we don't bother with the help-echo and mouse highlight. Admittedly, the mouse-highlight is probably not a good idea, but the rest sounds really like the ideal solution to me. Stefan