From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:24:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4E48D309.6050503@acdlabs.ru> <83hb5jujjs.fsf@gnu.org> <874o1j10zv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8362lyvcli.fsf@gnu.org> <83k4aasnm9.fsf@gnu.org> <838vqmx9tj.fsf@gnu.org> <87ipppjfiq.fsf@gmail.com> <87ei0cjvow.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314123909 5171 80.91.229.12 (23 Aug 2011 18:25:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 18:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?B?xaB0xJtww6FuIE7Em21lYw==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 23 20:25:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvvep-0003q0-W2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:25:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39746 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvvep-0006ZI-DD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50786) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvven-0006ZC-Co for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvvek-0001Wt-V6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:25:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:43397 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvvej-0001WG-IA; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:24:57 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EALrvU05Ld+HZ/2dsb2JhbABCp2N4gUABAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSQuh1a9QoZIBJ93hDg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,270,1312171200"; d="scan'208";a="132436301" Original-Received: from 75-119-225-217.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([75.119.225.217]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 23 Aug 2011 14:24:56 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4D2B36610A; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:24:56 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87ei0cjvow.fsf@gmail.com> (=?utf-8?B?IsWgdMSbcMOhbiBOxJtt?= =?utf-8?B?ZWMiJ3M=?= message of "Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:58:39 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:143546 Archived-At: > I think I've gathered as much from the fact that the bug is still > unfixed. Which is precisely why I used this precious opportunity to > point out that there might be more reasons. So now there's also the fact > that using the face for this seems like a kludge to Eli (and possibly > others? certainly me included) and gets in the way of other unrelated > code (or at least makes certain "obvious" solutions "non-obvious"). Actually, changing it so that another property is added to delimit the text wouldn't solve your problem: the mouse-face property would still also be added and would hence still interfere with your use. Stefan