From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should the default value of url-user-agent include a version number? What about the specific case of package.el? Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:27:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <56F42269.10400@gmail.com> <05663DCE-3E5B-41E2-8657-460B2D013B49@lunaryorn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458854874 19709 80.91.229.3 (24 Mar 2016 21:27:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 21:27:54 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 24 22:27:48 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ajCnD-0000oq-B1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:27:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52834 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajCnC-0005J6-Dr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:27:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39497) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajCmy-0005HN-4P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:27:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajCmu-0001dm-Uy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:27:32 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:52380) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajCmu-0001b9-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:27:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ajCms-0000cW-1v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:27:26 +0100 Original-Received: from 69-196-182-150.dsl.teksavvy.com ([69.196.182.150]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:27:26 +0100 Original-Received: from monnier by 69-196-182-150.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:27:26 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-196-182-150.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XcoOG8qBnPyXJTTuebhsCs2qJBo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:202203 Archived-At: >>>> I never liked it, but admittedly, I never complained about it. >>> May I ask why you do not like this behaviour? What stands against it? >> That's just a leak of private information. > I must admit that I find it hard to agree. I do not see how the OS, > or the Emacs version, or the combination of both could be used to > identify you as a person. Your medical records are considered private information, not because they would allow someone to identify you, but because they say things about you which not everyone should know. > And even if it could, doesn't it pale beside the information that is > necessarily send to the archive (e.g. your IP, a partial list of the > packages you're using, etc.)? AFAIK we don't send a partial list of the packages we're using. > I think that our desire as package maintainers to learn how and where > their packages are used is legitimate. Of course. But being legitimate doesn't trump other concerns. It has to be weighed against the consequences. Stefan