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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] New option to make C-x 4 a use file-less ChangeLog buffers (was Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support))
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 17:09:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvh8ky2952.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87601fc8vy.fsf@gmail.com> ("João Távora"'s message of "Mon, 16 Jul 2018 19:50:41 +0100")

> You can't do with a with a file name,

What makes you think we can't.  It's rather the contrary: buffer names
for file buffers can be chosen much more freely compared to most
non-file buffers (where the main identifying mark is the buffer name).

> and, on a tangent, I think this is what many people like the "project
> drawer" for: to know whence a file comes by looking at their screen.

I don't know what's the "project drawer", so I'll take your word for it ;-)

>> It's called uniquify-min-dir-content.
> Oh so it does exist.  Can it be set buffer-locally?

Hmm... I think I answered this one earlier this morning, but no
I believe it only works as a global setting (more specifically, looking
at the code, it seems like it could support it, but trying it out, it
seems that buffer-local settings lead trigger a bug somewhere).

> But don't you find it useful in a buffer list (C-x b, C-x C-b, etc) to
> know _whom_ that *mail* is for? Or what project that *vc-dir* is
> editing?

No.  If there's more than one, then the buffer-name would tell me, and
if there's only one, I normally remember what it was about.

>>> If it did, would you be happy with "*changes for emacs*", "*changes for
>>> typer*" and the like?
>> It needs to be dynamic: what if I later open some "changes" for
>> .../src/emacs/work?
> Did you mean a file named *changes*?

No, I meant just another one of those buffers.

> If you did, it's like opening some
> "*grep*" file today (I've just checked: it's uniquified, correctly).  If
> you didn't I don't understand the problem.  To be clear, I was talking
> about always having a (potentially short) suffix.

Currently:
- I open ..../src/emacs/work/README I get "README"
- I open ..../src/typer/work/README I get "README | typer" and the
  previous "README" gets renamed to "README | emacs"
- I open ..../src/emacs/master/README, I get "README | emacs/master"
  and the previous 2 get renamed to "README | emacs/work" and
  "README | typer/work".
- If I kill two of those buffers, the remaining one reverts to just "README"

IMO, the same dynamic (re)naming should hold for "*changes to <foo>".

>                João (who would like it known that he used "whom" and
>                     "whence" having no idea if he botched it)

Duly noted.  I can't guarantee that it was used properly, but at least
my english-as-a-third-language-trained-brain did not find it jarring.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-16 21:09 UTC|newest]

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2017-12-15 21:26                     ` The name gnus-cloud.el Richard Stallman
2017-12-16 22:34                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-17 22:22                         ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-17 22:31                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-12-17 22:57                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-12-18 21:15                               ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-17 23:20                             ` Stephen Berman
2017-12-18 21:17                             ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-17 23:06                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-18  0:33                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-18  3:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-18 21:16                               ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-19  3:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-21 16:50                                   ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-21 17:13                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-22 18:47                                       ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-22 18:57                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-22 19:20                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 14:58                                           ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-23 15:04                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-24 20:34                                               ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-25 16:06                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-25 22:27                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-12-26 19:40                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-10 13:16                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-24 20:34                                               ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-25 16:09                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-31 16:27                               ` Steinar Bang
2017-12-31 16:54                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-31 18:12                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-12-31 18:26                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-01  0:48                                       ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01  4:40                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-31 18:27                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01  1:05                                       ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01  4:42                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-01 10:07                                           ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 10:59                                             ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 21:40                                               ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 11:00                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 21:37                                               ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 11:06                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 21:36                                               ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 21:59                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 22:42                                                   ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 22:04                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-01-01 22:45                                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2018-01-02  0:02                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-01-02  1:15                                             ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
2018-01-02  8:06                                               ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-02  8:49                                                 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-10 13:14                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-10 15:05                                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-07-10 15:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-10 20:54                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-10 23:04                                                         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-11  3:32                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11  3:53                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-11  4:44                                                           ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-07-11  8:22                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 13:54                                                           ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support), Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support), Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support), " Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-11 15:42                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 16:09                                                               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-07-11 17:13                                                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-07-11 22:50                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-11 23:04                                                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-12 23:35                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-13 20:13                                                                     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2018-07-14  7:05                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 17:31                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-11 18:13                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 20:14                                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-11 22:36                                                                   ` João Távora
2018-07-12  2:42                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12  9:04                                                                       ` João Távora
2018-07-12 13:48                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 16:26                                                                           ` João Távora
2018-07-12 16:38                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 16:47                                                                               ` João Távora
2018-07-12 16:59                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 16:40                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 16:56                                                                               ` João Távora
2018-07-12 17:01                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 19:37                                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-13  6:16                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 17:17                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 23:12                                                                                   ` João Távora
2018-07-13 18:47                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-14 17:36                                                                           ` [PATCH] New option to make C-x 4 a use file-less ChangeLog buffers (was Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)) João Távora
2018-07-15  5:33                                                                             ` [PATCH] New option to make C-x 4 a use file-less ChangeLog buffers Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-15 10:41                                                                               ` João Távora
2018-07-15 14:11                                                                                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-16  2:15                                                                             ` [PATCH] New option to make C-x 4 a use file-less ChangeLog buffers (was Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)) Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 10:10                                                                               ` João Távora
2018-07-16 12:33                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 14:02                                                                                   ` João Távora
2018-07-16 15:44                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 18:00                                                                                       ` João Távora
2018-07-16 18:22                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 18:50                                                                                           ` João Távora
2018-07-16 21:09                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2018-07-21 10:45                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-16 15:50                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-16 23:02                                                                               ` João Távora
2018-07-21 10:42                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-21 13:02                                                                                   ` João Távora
2018-07-21 13:30                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-21 15:08                                                                                       ` João Távora
2018-07-21 16:13                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-08  1:10                                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-10-08  1:31                                                                                             ` João Távora
2018-07-12 13:36                                                                     ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 15:53                                                                       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-12 16:00                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 16:48                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-12 17:03                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 20:01                                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-12 20:06                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 20:28                                                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-13  3:46                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13  8:18                                                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-13 12:16                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13 13:07                                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-13 15:29                                                                                             ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-07-13 15:49                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 16:40                                                                       ` João Távora
2018-07-12 16:59                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 23:33                                                                           ` João Távora
2018-07-13 18:55                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13 19:45                                                                               ` João Távora
2018-07-13 20:33                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-11 17:08                                                           ` Radon Rosborough
2018-07-11 17:56                                                             ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-11 18:10                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 22:51                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-12 14:10                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 22:51                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-12 19:46                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-12 23:03                                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-12 23:39                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-11 18:25                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 17:03                                                               ` Radon Rosborough
2018-07-12 17:37                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13  4:33                                                                   ` Radon Rosborough
2018-07-13  8:14                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 14:15                                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-13 14:39                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 16:39                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13 23:11                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-14  6:58                                                                           ` Commit header lines (was: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)) Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-14 16:09                                                                             ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-14 16:23                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-14 21:57                                                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-12 19:42                                                               ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-13  6:16                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-02 16:15                                                 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03  2:50                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-03  3:24                                                     ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 15:36                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 18:20                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 18:56                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 20:17                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 20:43                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 22:02                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04  3:33                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-04  5:00                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04  6:39                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-04  8:03                                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-04 14:25                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 16:13                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-04 13:15                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-01-05  3:51                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 18:29                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-03 22:45                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 12:02                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-04 18:05                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 15:32                                                     ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 20:11                                                       ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 16:42                                                     ` Stephen Leake
2018-01-04 11:46                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-03  3:08                                                 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
2018-01-03  3:28                                                   ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-01-08  2:16                                                 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
2018-01-08  4:22                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-08 18:30                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-08 18:41                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-08 19:13                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-08 19:29                                                           ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-08 21:08                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-09  2:55                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-09  7:27                                                           ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-10  3:03                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-10  8:22                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-10 15:32                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-11 22:08                                                                   ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-01-12  8:21                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13  2:33                                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-13  5:13                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-13  8:31                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 10:31                                                                             ` Tim Landscheidt
2018-01-13 17:42                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-13 19:22                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 21:43                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-13 19:35                                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-13 19:42                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 20:22                                                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-14  3:31                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13  8:26                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-16  2:16                                                                 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
2018-01-09  2:54                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-02 22:04                                               ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Steinar Bang
2018-01-02  5:20                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-02 17:34                                           ` The name gnus-cloud.el Karl Fogel
2018-01-02 20:42                                           ` Chad Brown
2017-12-18 21:15                             ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-19  6:09                           ` John Wiegley
2017-12-19  7:42                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-21 16:51                             ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-19  9:09                       ` joakim

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