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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk
Subject: XEmacs packages (was: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:37:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvh8c8gd9d.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h8c83xqw.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 12 Mar 2019 17:42:31 +0200")

> I will note that this is going where XEmacs was before, and I don't
> think the result was encouraging, FWIW.

My recollection of it is that they had some problems with it, especially
at the beginning, but I don't think they regretted it at all.

And our situation is quite different:

- They did a "big change" where they split the previously-combined
  XEmacs into XEmacs-core on one side and the sumo-meta-package on
  the other.  That was obviously painful because it was a big change,
  and also because they tried to make the XEmacs-core part as small
  as possible.
  In contrast, I haven't heard anyone suggest such a drastic change:
  only a gradual change by moving some packages from emacs.git to
  elpa.git bit by bit.

- I think XEmacs packages were more costly than ELPA packages in terms
  of maintenance.  2 reasons for that: one is that they were
  pre-compiled (which implies more work to package and more
  compatibility problems) and the other is that several of those
  XEmacs-packages were maintained by other people than the "upstream
  maintainer".


-- Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-12 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-15 15:43 Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation Daniele Nicolodi
2019-01-15 18:45 ` Yuri Khan
2019-01-19 15:07   ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-01-21 10:45     ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2019-01-21 20:57       ` Richard Stallman
2019-01-23 23:22         ` Phillip Lord
2019-01-24  2:09           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-24 10:29             ` Phillip Lord
2019-01-24 14:48               ` Ted Zlatanov
2019-01-26  0:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-26  7:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-26 10:41                 ` Phillip Lord
2019-02-20 19:59                   ` Core ELPA was: " Phillip Lord
2019-02-27 23:05                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-01 15:55                       ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-01 17:25                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-01 21:39                           ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-01 22:07                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-02 11:14                               ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-03  3:23                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-03 18:06                                   ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-08  2:51                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-10 11:45                                       ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-10 18:02                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-11 22:46                                           ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-12  1:11                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-12 23:02                                               ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-13 19:05                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-13 22:41                                                   ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-02  3:36                           ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-02 11:21                             ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-03  3:00                               ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-03 17:52                                 ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-04  3:27                                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-10 11:27                                     ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-11  1:23                                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-11 22:08                                         ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-12  3:38                                           ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-12 15:42                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-12 15:52                                               ` Robert Pluim
2019-03-12 17:25                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-12 22:49                                                   ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-12 22:48                                                 ` Phillip Lord
2019-03-12 18:37                                               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2019-03-13  3:32                                               ` Richard Stallman
2019-01-16  7:58 ` Helmut Eller

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