From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some ideas with Emacs Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 13:07:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87d0dbszjn.fsf@mbork.pl> <8736e4titj.fsf@mbork.pl> <871rtoti9w.fsf@mbork.pl> <87v9qysxbb.fsf@mbork.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="196546"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: VanL , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 02 19:08:48 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ibq7s-000p1C-0G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 19:08:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42736 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ibq7q-0005ob-Rh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 13:08:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58213) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ibq6z-0005cK-0h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 13:07:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ibq6v-0001iE-Uz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 13:07:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:56648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ibq6v-0001g9-BY; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 13:07:49 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 037A31004C7; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 13:07:48 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E6C101003C9; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 13:07:45 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1575310065; bh=cDJyZtlQPbYD0NT+5VAnrAhNYIr7eYumB4hjh3087FE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=lUPOvoot3KM1rrQX4usYKD5OghO+R75GmBq9jk3sECD02LNw3jxN3JYcJ39xMaUlW EDxoFNGa680cr51ANzNra6CR+qEIW4QljBXcztt8y6Zq54MnyGoNAvV3Ln0U0qnozh +Ql1v90Q0M7GKz8vhJlK42pMWzg2FPzkI2YZh37t8S/gTuOstbczBLcQJT1qMPbmbR xmV4COTPPRFSvcOlaUNNN/POWSxUX18OSUyorgzaJ1kM4/ve/VTZt5y27It9y2vMy7 Gf4N3bA2ckEbqY5H4Ypg3Ur0TpwVi43Mob3jcOpjeN1GZejYQDknwAj4vVq+qhDIDJ stxb4bLoWlo/w== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8ECFF12121B; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 13:07:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87v9qysxbb.fsf@mbork.pl> (Marcin Borkowski's message of "Mon, 02 Dec 2019 13:53:44 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243012 Archived-At: > this is a very shady area - after all, disallowing reuse would put > a stop to much of artistic creativity - but I would at least expect > a modified version to be (a) easily distinguishable from the original > and (b) prepared in such a way that the differeneces between the > original and the modified version are visible without specialized tools > (like diff). From a cursory examination, GFDL secures (a), but not > necessarily (b). If you want to update an old textbook, I can definitely agree to stating clearly the original book from which you started, but I see no need to include a clear separation of what you changed (it might be nice to include a brief summary, maybe, but I see no reason to request it from the license). Similarly, how/why would you list the differences for a translation of the book (other than "translated from Foo by Bar")? Stefan