From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal to include obligatory PGP verification of packages from any repository Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:52:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20201013052736.GE31408@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201016130235.06218dae@argon> <87eelvplvh.fsf@posteo.net> <10bdf4ea-e365-cc3d-ec03-4348946fadbe@yandex.ru> <20201019124335.GC19325@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201019182828.GB1842@odonien.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15321"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: philipk@posteo.net, bugs@gnu.support, thibaut.verron@gmail.com, mve1@runbox.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, Vasilij Schneidermann To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 20 07:53:22 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kUkaI-0003t6-GC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 07:53:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38838 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUkaH-0000k8-HC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:53:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40814) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUkZe-00006R-3E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:52:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:13881) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUkZb-00032e-Qf; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:52:41 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6BEE444043C; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 61A84440406; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:52:36 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1603173156; bh=Mg8Ah0w4hqmc9QQxzDYpV/o9+CxCAOzBgO8k6fnkLSs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=FN/ZfopomjR+QZDTSuIuhUcx1hdXE2SNjgTtj1uO5C30f8yzj/gUCqCBVmRUxsYt1 kGXpCF4ETcW9UA6LV6pfuRuOK664p0vaMU/ayZ6AnlF7i5tXl+EFYic/W8fSdUTy89 z141P0C3QlefxKSEbXeX3d301d1tlfb9D2IRxePY2Dsa5a3hjcjNB5w6uqygCVXsUo x+PSi2RLOR6AW4SPiMsNJzjGXuV7NLtl4ASzFNbHwe1zF/oBR+z4HSqo6qKlW0wP0e x0jqkt4NuZwfxSb/8wQ2tciw2lSGZlAgB9QYTkGi2Kg8fnjlC+WZjYNbmEg9PK+ZJJ aJlgqvoj02fxQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D87AA1203A6; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:52:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:17:38 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/20 01:52:38 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258167 Archived-At: > I have not tried to study each point in your message -- there were so > many -- but I noticed criticism of Savannah for not offering > two-factor authentication. > > When I was asked to do this, I couldn't do it, because it depended on > carrying a protable listening and surveillance device (aka cellular > phone). I don't see why: the way Gitlab does 2FA relies either on TOTP or on a secure-key (such as the somu), neither of which requires any kind of network correction (cellular or other). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIDO2_Project and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_One-time_Password_algorithm Stefan