From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261044 Archived-At: >> every ELPA package we want to include will have >> a branch in `emacs.git` (e.g. with name `elpa/[PKGNAME]`) > It's the other way around: each package in elpa.git will have branch > named emacs/PKGNAME. Right? If we want to use them in all Git checkouts, then I assumed it'd make sense to host them in `emacs.git`. But either way is fine by me. >> We will place the submodules under some `elpa` subdirectory of our >> choice > Why not under lisp/ ? Because we don't want it to interfere with the subdirs.el and other such things. > And what directory will be the parent of that elpa/ subdirectory you > propose, when Emacs is installed? I think it'd makes sense to put use /usr/share/emacs/NN.MM/elpa (i.e. keep it as a sibling of `lisp` both in the source code and in the install). >> after which we simply have to add that directory to the default >> value of `package-directory-list`. > Note that this is not a single directory, but at least 2 different > ones: we need to support both running Emacs uninstalled, from the > source/build tree, and running an installed Emacs. It's only one directory, but indeed just like `etc`, `lisp`, and others, its location will depend on whether Emacs is run uninstalled or not. Stefan