From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#30854: 27.0.50; Speeding up package.el startup Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:59:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38745"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: arthur.miller@live.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 19 19:00:30 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kqgWs-000A0Y-BR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 19:00:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49248 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqgWr-0004Pe-Dd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:00:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54938) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqgVe-0003ug-Vo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:59:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:62863) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqgVZ-0006Cl-Hl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:59:13 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 29FB3440311; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:59:07 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A3F1D4401B6; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:59:05 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1608400745; bh=FRWT2YVRNRC4xr5zB+RULcu2TJlLckIuyf8rwanROSs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=afgzb225WQhA7G0dC1BkvCpK8D9K70dgGuWzrnesbEl8YjnPbyvJDq1kGERc5p2tR KVhya3hnBpM4db5y7bI8+CxEONQtXBONOghbGIOO6DJMGrXL+InXYQ/RormRX94nec /nJwnPkSAcYaPyMgeyuTIBiRQ+AFgI8aeaLRam/B1JTVCJfHD0eg5vOi1nyK08BAHm 33nSJCmSSN2ACvMx5+8zahMWOwCpSH9qHNrwjbyi/qVYJX+mvkYgjnV3FTSSukUdId 4ryZf7s248SplcphtjC8T6FXx+t0JI8n95USLm82I1oI++3naj+ZUkh5eG/ChqGzpD /6ApS/XCUpK8w== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-165-136-52.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.165.136.52]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6F50B1204AD; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:59:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (arthur miller's message of "Sat, 19 Dec 2020 17:34:36 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261265 Archived-At: > Unfortunately I got less time then I thought I would have today. There's no hurry. > early-init.el > (setq package-quickstart t) You don't need it there: `package-activate-all` will use a quickstart file if found, regardless of the value of `package-quickstart`. IOW the value of `package-quickstart` onlt matters to decide whether we *generate* the quickstart file. > init.el > (package-activate-all) This should not be needed (and can be harmful) since `package-activate-all` should have been run by Emacs between `early-init.el` and `init.el` > package-quickstart.el is byte- compiled Good. > startup time ~0.28 to ~0.30 OK. > Quick start disabled: > > early-init.el: > > (setq package-quickstart nil > package-quickstart nil > package-enable-at-startup nil > package--init-file-ensured t) [...] > What I see is that startup time is consistently somewhat faster with > "disabled" quickstart. I am getting ~0.24 with my version; and ~0.28 > with "original" quickstart. Maybe the difference is just due to loading `package`? IOW, what happens if you add (require 'package) to your "Quick start disabled" version? Does the startup time go back up to ~0.28? Stefan