From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:10:16 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvh7m6wj6u.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1lDYgn-0000SL-8q@fencepost.gnu.org> (Alfred M. Szmidt's message of "Sat, 20 Feb 2021 15:17:17 -0500")
> > Should be noted that M-S-x is tricky to get working on console
> M-X works on any terminal.
> M-S-x does not work in _any_ terminal,
Indeed the treatment of "shift" in input events is surprisingly delicate
and messy. We should make sure that both events get mapped to the same
command, indeed, regardless of this new keybinding. In the terminals
I use hitting "meta + shift + x" sends Emacs "ESC X" which leads Emacs
to find the intended command without any trouble. Which terminals have
you found which do differently?
This said, I don't think it's very important: `M-X` is bound to a new
command whose importance has not been demonstrated yet: maybe it'll
prove to be super convenient, and maybe it'll be just one more
experiment which didn't pan out. So if it's difficult to access its
default binding in some setups, I'm not too worried. We have many other
default bindings of reasonably important commands which are probably
a lot harder to access depending on your keyboard layout (like `M-C-%`)
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-20 21:10 UTC|newest]
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2021-02-14 17:19 Current mode command discovery Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 17:26 ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-15 3:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 17:29 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-15 3:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 12:21 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-16 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 12:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 17:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 17:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 3:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-15 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 12:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 16:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:08 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-16 18:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 19:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 19:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 19:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 20:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 3:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 11:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 6:02 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-16 23:32 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 16:28 ` tomas
2021-02-17 17:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 18:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 5:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-19 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 22:33 ` chad
2021-02-19 23:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-19 23:19 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-20 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 19:43 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-21 17:10 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-20 13:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-22 4:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-22 5:27 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-20 19:43 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-19 14:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 18:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-20 11:16 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-17 8:34 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-17 11:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 23:30 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-14 19:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 20:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-14 21:20 ` tomas
2021-02-14 23:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 23:30 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-14 21:20 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-02-14 21:39 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 22:07 ` tomas
2021-02-14 23:30 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-14 23:30 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-14 23:30 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-14 23:30 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-14 19:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 20:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 20:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 20:49 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 23:18 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 23:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-15 2:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-15 0:29 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-15 2:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 2:20 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 11:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 11:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 16:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 17:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 22:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-18 10:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 13:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-18 14:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 17:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 13:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 14:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 18:21 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-17 18:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 22:26 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-17 22:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 18:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 22:28 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-20 11:55 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 11:49 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 14:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 14:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 14:51 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 16:52 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-20 17:20 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 17:43 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-20 17:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-02-20 20:17 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 21:10 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-02-20 22:09 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-21 6:15 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 21:43 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-20 22:09 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 22:22 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-20 23:53 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 21:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-02-20 23:53 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-28 12:32 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-28 12:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-02-28 17:21 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 14:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 16:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-20 19:45 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-21 16:55 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-21 21:39 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-02-21 22:46 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-21 12:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 15:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 17:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 17:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-22 14:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-22 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 19:45 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-20 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 14:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 15:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-20 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 16:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-20 16:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-20 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 17:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-20 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 6:18 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 16:54 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-21 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-21 6:23 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 12:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 15:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 17:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 18:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 18:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 18:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
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