From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should (buffer-list) ever return killed buffers? Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 15:55:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wnrpujo0.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> <87bl91uhn0.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> <9b005615-9b52-cc9c-e620-bc87334f08e0@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27898"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Sergey Organov , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 24 22:00:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1llGkH-00076w-C6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 May 2021 22:00:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37876 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1llGkG-0003Ks-9t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 May 2021 16:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58290) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1llGgD-0004NV-02 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2021 15:56:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:42367) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1llGgA-0001k9-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2021 15:56:00 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9C9AF10028B; Mon, 24 May 2021 15:55:56 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 214D810020E; Mon, 24 May 2021 15:55:55 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1621886155; bh=AdTjpzOH9XjW+vPEfhAR2bwfYJbaHPxj2gKceyNfQ68=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=C8mVGRzmlsMvPHmtYmxK/rTaVnjxfTyVlujNMk5cICabFyygJPvId/ZpCJZwI3kpb SvpnSBza/NECVrfAhB9jUDyuIIw0e1PjOERzx01fiHIGWoaO0ir/zRk1KIEZvoI9EQ cce7iprPgs/sAzbxWNU27o7txCWUPh89O1YmbuxcawUAUfy4iYWYS1//gx6TCOI4D3 Ws9+qqjYw/zoCAGjUDTJvB7T83b1DHNQenysOl8stnon8sGcvV+CmW5j0pESXcNAYZ Z8iHzaQlsIy6U2Kf1Y+GH0zeCfX65hd62iTugrdSR4wFNFtGMZUdunQqmzCcz8eP/S btjRnPtu90W6Q== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-196-163-239.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.163.239]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD3E31207C1; Mon, 24 May 2021 15:55:54 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (martin rudalics's message of "Mon, 24 May 2021 19:05:33 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269802 Archived-At: >> I don't see how it explain anything. The fact that it may quit doesn't >> imply it can run timers or run arbitrary code which could lead to the >> return value containing dead buffers. > Even within `while-no-input'? Yes, even with that. "may quit" means just that: it can be interrupted in the middle, but if so it won't return any list at all: it will just quit. So when it does return, it always returns a list and it has not been interrupted by any `quit` along the way, and no other ELisp code can have run in-between either. AFAIK Stefan