From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Touchscreen support Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:22:31 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87czlxkntg.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87czlxkntg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtkziwhi.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnk3h0hn.fsf@yahoo.com> <87o85fgx4x.fsf@yahoo.com> <87k0g2hja9.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6586"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Po Lu via "Emacs development discussions." , Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 18 17:23:51 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mycUw-0001X1-LM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 17:23:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49410 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mycUv-0006k5-3q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:23:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56654) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mycTt-00063V-Jt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:22:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:32942) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mycTq-0006SU-W8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:22:44 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 199D910018C; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:22:40 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B0EC610009E; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:22:32 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1639844552; bh=Nu7GVx9oDecDvVW6uJ3CQzusFmgqQ8JqSlS5mO+vJhc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=HD9GTG2KkVRk20SErPrlvtW1T5z2f7DotSPZEUtwOxsTbySOkg4TN1l6713H7VMnf o+DDq+e+00C7N1irp6rDR8L9/Gd/3dJg+HpUU4WF5zn5mqEVg0p/NGWdgnfcCmWHgn 9vdD+fKEUwlHT1pXGbH9FxCfOfYGdrrpFegCfDJ6H5ct5Jo40JX77FKjQAklYFBy5i 9Z7KRrq1yqey7BXtbJgcgfmfqIrL/6gNXeurXR5NdBSw98JfNn3O4IZlcqqXGuoXw4 GO3oTaDfpnKkSj8J7BIzIv4Q/w43NQF/1WjiS/6fakm4VctkqQXJgLJspq6UfhaeGs itWZH5kK8Y2xw== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [216.154.30.173]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D1FE120AA9; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:22:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87k0g2hja9.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Sat, 18 Dec 2021 08:02:38 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282329 Archived-At: Po Lu [2021-12-18 08:02:38] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> I can't see why we should not use such a toolkit. We already do for >> many other things. > As I said, the "gestures" exposed by the various toolkits mean extremely > different things depending on the toolkit, which are impossible to > abstract around in a useful manner. That's the part I'm hoping to improve over time. Stefan