From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 01:10:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8735m6o349.fsf@yahoo.com> <87pmpamlon.fsf@yahoo.com> <834k6mdu7q.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8z12ud8.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> <7BD42724-519F-406C-ABB2-CC50E70CD837@gmail.com> <2875A819-29F5-4411-AC1E-A357474BACF3@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11363"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Sean Whitton , Stefan Kangas , Drew Adams , "xenodasein@tutanota.de" , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Yuan Fu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 04 07:15:33 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4d6b-0002mx-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 07:15:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57068 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4d6Z-0003zp-Bs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 01:15:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56570) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4d2D-0003Cu-SQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 01:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:23329) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4d2B-0003pC-8P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 01:11:00 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4435D80552; Tue, 4 Jan 2022 01:10:57 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CB3FA801E9; Tue, 4 Jan 2022 01:10:51 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1641276651; bh=aax/DluRxsqNDPiPFdCZpP2igYeIE3Flur6CB4Xz91c=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=DfElk342s5PS04UyJ8l/VmkAqdEsuOCZ6eufWjQJxrgq1Frc9fifWar3OFR/y+Rzc jYrtUKIw38/u/+VyAdMbuuLmXQ0M7l+6UCT/0ahXnkkDKzMUO5gfuU0RO8HVj5h2oL B5jVhB+yXmGOrRm5KG7kH6vgM7FnFaKUt5IbuXZp+Xyxvnj1Uv0+ugXMkkRDu35MKW V0IqTWjemPC/vTtjdP/jCGB3Pf8qgmqGJdnDH6EAzrMnulsVQ/iC+ln5w6J1rG3WT8 wa+G10qEG9vvZbMcg6Nw74XNSWFPnCIui3G3oH6XlNOCtuz9m7+YkkrTfxTfkbHSvG Vbw5WDpjDgv8g== Original-Received: from ceviche (unknown [216.154.30.173]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D0F6120145; Tue, 4 Jan 2022 01:10:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2875A819-29F5-4411-AC1E-A357474BACF3@gmail.com> (Yuan Fu's message of "Mon, 3 Jan 2022 20:30:42 -0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284126 Archived-At: > That=E2=80=99s true. Ok. I=E2=80=99ll do that. I still think code has the= virtue of > simplicity and inviting a user to explore more of Emacs. I so agree with you. But we're talking about a wizard here, i.e. one of those tools whose target users are exactly those users who don't want to see code. FWIW, I still use my custom hack which makes it generate (and understand) "almost normal looking" ELisp code, like the one below. Stefan (custom-autogenerated-user-settings ;; This custom-autogenerated-user-settings was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. (setq agda2-include-dirs '("." "/usr/share/agda-stdlib")) (setq browse-url-browser-function 'browse-url-firefox) (setq browse-url-mozilla-program "firefox") (customize-set-variable 'calendar-date-style 'iso) (electric-pair-mode -1) ... )