From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 09:45:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ill8paw7.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83o7uzivey.fsf@gnu.org> <3ac9d2b9632f75018327a1bcde0c373f152c404a.camel@gmail.com> <835ygob7ja.fsf@gnu.org> <8335bra2rl.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilkncugg.fsf@gnus.org> <87edvbcszx.fsf@gnus.org> <875ygl783f.fsf@gnus.org> <87wn90176v.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17475"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Andrea Corallo , Eli Zaretskii , liliana.prikler@gmail.com, rlb@defaultvalue.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, alex.coplan@arm.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 16 15:47:57 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ok3zg-0004Gi-F9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 15:47:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56688 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ok3ze-0003rq-UP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 09:47:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ok3xK-0002x0-27 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 09:45:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:64608) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ok3xH-0003ns-JR; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 09:45:28 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 022CE807E9; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 09:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B824680667; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 09:45:23 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1665927923; bh=KBMzEtt2Rnusd2MZ2JGk7gXhz+8NH1CYKUVifg+QKpo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=lJ7aoHycBED788iAMPNsK6kVslcCqlKc1B9fh6xet8aGeBMUhWcxC0q2tiXYNFXpx cSgDV6hj3vPqjDv7YL2WRpM7uZjihqIsUNSx5vbXhTWXZQL4rhidnQXv2SACFTGfKH nXFHwXYAVWukw84CsrfPXUsweHbEgjLO8kcnY9Xmm7TvssbRrcYrxVEy0040KUngLd cRNg4SvHUgNtGiFODI4GVj1KltjDcwHPJxpuCugJm0pBzFIjUNJB0eyz/s/e4k3Ghr reicbg4UWNPR+mYM7MRGtU+seWU3qUrJcFI2b1hX4aVAdUVLQ12xXCff6A/0aZZxTo /0tUSpk4UpmgQ== Original-Received: from pastel (65-110-220-202.cpe.pppoe.ca [65.110.220.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 64996120172; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 09:45:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87wn90176v.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 16 Oct 2022 10:52:40 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297865 Archived-At: > But hopefully at some point in the future, we'll be able to use > libgccjit in-process, which should simplify things a bit, at least. While an in-process calls to libgccjit make a lot of sense to build trampolines (since we have to wait until the code is generated anyway), but for all deferred compilations proceeding in a forked process seems like a much better option. Stefan