From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Subversion of user chosen major mode by Emacs. [Was: My usage of imenu is broken.] Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 10:18:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86r0dmtbk2.fsf@gnu.org> <867cfbswfg.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38609"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 30 16:20:07 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sCgdT-0009oq-FB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 May 2024 16:20:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCgcL-0008EC-6i; Thu, 30 May 2024 10:18:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCgcJ-0008CI-Bf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2024 10:18:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCgcH-0002r0-Fh; Thu, 30 May 2024 10:18:55 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 53F0C44293E; Thu, 30 May 2024 10:18:51 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1717078730; bh=ezCS+WS9ZiV1LSVlHe76CT4gNMwDkKPeW3IppuvMWQ0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=FCqbS7bQFBquZViYPDoQEZu3z+Qh4VHqjIZITTFWckA2qtG4Avv3Jw/YSaMc+ToyH jxxDqcNR8CG8/1R/GirMtdqfuUVXRBYuoWX3UOBMTCIC2jPTKWjjPGMwxDZE9uexT8 tU7u/XxJS90F181u12QvI1ZQrXhjV+lW2F1yx0EdP4UC1pojx8VJ9DexffEdpXNpjR TR8kC50KAofgYk7biQ7Gr4WvDw8Jce0D+5VQWzpgIFYV3bDZqv7cOd7FgdjJplvCvR wW1uhUEE9J69h48TZIQ41dsKFs6H9rItUp8QkDjXNK7f2sAVrc9PWZIjtVi+9RZwh0 qG5qkRwb6quig== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1CC4A442902; Thu, 30 May 2024 10:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [24.140.236.196]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5BD7120158; Thu, 30 May 2024 10:18:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <867cfbswfg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 30 May 2024 08:25:39 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319748 Archived-At: >> Otherwise, it's impossible for two users who have different preferences >> to share that file. > How do I force the use of a specific mode when more than one can > handle the file? It is possible that the file relies on some features > specific to that mode, so such use cases are not outlandish. AFAICT it is a lot more common for file-local vars to be abused to specify mere user preferences, than the reverse (i.e. where there really is a technical reason why the file should be edited with js2-mode rather than js-mode). Stefan