From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default lexical-binding to t Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2024 07:50:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: <86ttcnuppm.fsf@gnu.org> <86ttcksgsu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1696"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 06 13:51:18 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t8fVF-0000CZ-6r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2024 13:51:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t8fV0-0000wp-Iv; Wed, 06 Nov 2024 07:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t8fUo-0000rm-Si for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2024 07:50:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t8fUn-0004w1-09; Wed, 06 Nov 2024 07:50:50 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DA5BF44097B; Wed, 6 Nov 2024 07:50:45 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1730897444; bh=ehMdr4BKoSC/g1mdHUXtJiPY7RptH1/gy0HjhyYezss=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=nE5jYldOPWuLPW0sNGgqqetjwlg/jeStI5Ud5KPdeXJG17IFNnK+QsLzL6skKHBnD EvoTC0f/9nOcQshToX3/ZjbtkaTnGOoAoOEe3XdTyDyVQbs+ybVdyYj5gUbfzMJMHL Dgvau3+clQQ2As7VhGzd3UDt25OQBwTodnkeCiCdumqkipELPFyYtPo5EKwW7+hqms 16OqEGsZNiZY+2hJyFwubayjpPcjUWg1TIJgf+R/ND6nofdClJGwrLIseQcl40x1/H IWPewX1o8k5gT8AqRvdE184Gyv0rGPRjN7sjF7bGPwgdOLLJndviT+K/jZt5OI5U62 OvfC/YWrKLgcQ== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BFCCE440F4D; Wed, 6 Nov 2024 07:50:44 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from pastel (104-195-225-43.cpe.teksavvy.com [104.195.225.43]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9047E12033B; Wed, 6 Nov 2024 07:50:44 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <86ttcksgsu.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 06 Nov 2024 14:11:29 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325172 Archived-At: > Consider the plight of someone who over the years have accrued > hundreds of lines of Lisp in their init and customization files, and > now needs somehow to walk over all of that and see if anything needs > changing, or risk breakage in something that has been working for > eons. It would be nice if we could help those poor souls, and not > just hang them to dry. They should likely add a `lexical-binding:nil` cookie and move on. Of course, they can also change this cookie to `t` temporarily every once in a while to see if it uncovers a problem or not, so the conversion can be done bit by bit. Stefan