From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: vc-status vs pcl-cvs Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:22:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4845BA20.3070804@gnu.org> <18502.728.743890.14466@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18502.12890.517998.506464@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200806041601.m54G11P4004695@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212600262 3511 80.91.229.12 (4 Jun 2008 17:24:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Nick Roberts , Sam Steingold , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 04 19:25:03 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K3wj9-0007Hq-F1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:24:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41132 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K3wiN-0004Il-3I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:23:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K3whi-0003zm-2I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:23:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K3whh-0003ys-3f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53754 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K3whg-0003ym-So for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:23:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:52865) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K3whb-0003Iq-TJ; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:23:12 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7531A2CF7C4; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C873FE0; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6090C41BEC; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:22:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <200806041601.m54G11P4004695@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:01:01 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98406 Archived-At: >> > > In that case, do you think [it was] premature to remove vc-directory which >> > > was better at doing some of the things vc-dir should do? >> > >> > AFAIK, it has the same "commit in foreground" and "no way to update the >> > whole direcrory" problem. VC-dir is missing some features, but which >> > ones (other than the obvious ones from dired which probably won't be >> > added to vc-dir anyway) were present in vc-dired? >> >> vc-dir always needs the repository (even when vc-stay-local is t), > This would need to be implemented in specific backends (only CVS and svn > care about it). And it's rather easy: in vc-*-dir-status can use > something like vc-rcs-dir-status. Patches are welcome. > (IMHO this is not very useful, but if people want it...) I disagree. The "stay-local" should be the default. It is tremendously useful (think of the case where you're not connected to your repository). The non-stay-local behavior is the one whose usefulness is debatable (after all, most new VCS don't bother offering a clean equivalent). Stefan