From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Switching to bzr: what remains to be done? Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:14:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87vdtu332o.fsf@red-bean.com> <200812090245.mB92j83j019610@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <87r64e8nqf.fsf@canonical.com> <873agm9zmh.fsf@canonical.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231121712 2037 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2009 02:15:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 02:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Karl Fogel , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Tromey Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 05 03:16:21 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LJf0u-0006Hw-81 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:16:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37008 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJeze-0004Jo-Nj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJeza-0004Jj-Ix for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:14:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJezY-0004JO-6l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:14:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33143 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJezY-0004JL-0Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:14:56 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:9212 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LJezX-0000mQ-QB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:14:55 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtEEAID7YElLd+Xf/2dsb2JhbACBbMdXhXKBaQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,330,1228107600"; d="scan'208";a="31783563" Original-Received: from 75-119-229-223.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([75.119.229.223]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 04 Jan 2009 21:14:53 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6327B7020E; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:14:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Tom Tromey's message of "Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:00:05 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:107587 Archived-At: Karl> Other than those, is anything (besides one-time conversion issues) Karl> preventing us from switching to bzr? > Today I gave bzr a whirl. I tried cloning, and I was really surprised > by the time it took: > opsy. time bzr clone http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/trunk/ > Branched 95250 revision(s). > real 55m20.938s > user 11m8.756s > sys 0m19.971s > I'm using the bzr from F9: > opsy. rpm -q bzr > bzr-1.9-1.fc9.i386 > Is this expected? One hour to check out Emacs seems excessive. I think it's pretty much expected, yes. Bzr is not a speed daemon, and the initial checkout is a case in point. Luckily, this is not a common occurrence, and it can be sped up in all kinds of ways (e.g. provide a tarball snapshot of the checked out tree). Stefan