From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: translation-table-for-input Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:58:54 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1234476083 2180 80.91.229.12 (12 Feb 2009 22:01:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@m17n.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 12 23:02:38 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LXjde-0004Yw-S1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:02:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52521 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LXjcL-0008Qv-2P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:01:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LXjcG-0008Pr-3S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:01:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LXjcD-0008Mc-Tn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:01:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33902 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LXjcD-0008ME-M1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:01:01 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:38502) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LXjc9-0004eg-Js; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:00:57 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArMEAH0qlElMCoNH/2dsb2JhbACBbtJJhBgGgyc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,199,1233550800"; d="scan'208";a="33809703" Original-Received: from 76-10-131-71.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.131.71]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2009 17:00:56 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 30CFD8269; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:58:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:50:05 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:109025 Archived-At: > I ended up removing the make-obsolete-variable call for > translation-table-for-input, and instead added a blurb to its doc > string to discourage its use for unification purposes. Please don't. If you really want to fix the warning then either use with-no-warnings, or just remove the whole feature. But don't just remove the call to make-obsolete-variable. > No, it's not obsolete. The "obsolete" thingy mostly means "slated for removal", AFAIC. So, yes, it is "obsolete" because I plan to remove it altogether. > Its use for character code unification is obsolete, but otherwise > having a possibility to translate the output of an input method is > a valuable feature. I see no such evidence. > I understand Handa-san objected to deleting it in the past. Yes, simply out of fear that someone somewhere might use it. Hence the `make-obsolete-variable' so aso to warn people that if they use it, they should come and see us because the feature may disappear. Stefan