From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Trying to cope with Calendar's dynamic scoping Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:59:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378407604 24857 80.91.229.3 (5 Sep 2013 19:00:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 19:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 05 21:00:04 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VHemi-0005en-E1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 21:00:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33349 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VHemi-0002k9-3h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 15:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42870) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VHemY-0002jI-7U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 15:00:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VHemQ-0004nA-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:59:54 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:48860) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VHemJ-0004mO-0j; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:59:39 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id r85IxbWM002272; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:59:37 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1ED29B41C5; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:59:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 05 Sep 2013 13:55:15 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4692=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4692> : inlines <70> : streams <1032181> : uri <1528076> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163204 Archived-At: > Or defined in any third-party library. Eg it seems this would break org, > which has "helpfully" hidden the warnings from "(defvar date)". Aha! So indeed it breaks `org-diary'. And of course org-diary-sexp-entry (which reproduces Calendar's behavior). > I don't know how common such usage is. Don't know either. But it means we have to keep using dynamic scoping for `date' and `entry', for now. Stefan