From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Eldoc mode in eval-minibuffer
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:59:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvfvoi8rqa.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bnz6iqtr.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:02:56 +0200")
> Besides the usual gripes about such prominent changes in behavior
> being made during feature freeze,
I don't know of such a change. AFAIK the change to eldoc installed
recently was about changing the implementation of
eldoc-post-insert-mode, to make it more like the normal eldoc mode.
I.e. a change in implementation more than in behavior.
> . Since it is not in NEWS, chances are it will never get mentioned in
> the manual, which is bad for default behavior.
IIUC this change in behavior was not intended.
Leo, can you take a look to see what's going on?
> . Why does it make sense to show this information when you eval in
> the minibuffer, but not when you eval in *scratch* or in IELM?
It doesn't.
> The latter two sound like much better candidates for this feature.
Indeed, I'd like to enable eldoc-mode by default wherever it's
supported, but that's for after 24.4.
> . I don't think turning this on by default in eval-minibuffer was
> ever seriously discussed. The ChangeLog entry refers to an obscure
> bug report, but the discussions of that bug (which I have read at
> the time, as I do with all bugs) never explicitly said anything
> about the effect I see. Makes me think that perhaps all this is
> some mistake or unintentional consequence.
The discussions were about making eldoc work in the minibuffer, not
about enabling it, AFAIK.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-20 17:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-20 16:02 Eldoc mode in eval-minibuffer Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-20 17:48 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-01-21 1:23 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-21 1:42 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-21 9:52 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-01-21 13:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-21 13:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-20 17:59 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-01-20 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-20 19:47 ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-21 1:32 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-21 2:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-21 2:24 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-22 10:28 ` Darren Hoo
2014-01-22 13:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-21 3:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
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