From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: proposal: require GnuTLS 3.1.x (previous stable) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:31:31 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87389762xj.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87h9xnqfdl.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <87mw7eaz2w.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oartaoq7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87egsp8xul.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bnnr40qo.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417203134 3679 80.91.229.3 (28 Nov 2014 19:32:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 19:32:14 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 28 20:32:07 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XuRGw-0001P8-Qh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:32:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45661 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuRGw-0008BS-Dn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:32:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53358) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuRGa-0008B8-QR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:31:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuRGR-0006Af-5l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:31:44 -0500 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:46699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuRGQ-0006AX-Ug for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:31:35 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id sASJVWqt024331; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:31:32 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0D2973EB6; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:31:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87bnnr40qo.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:51:43 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5139=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5139> : inlines <1569> : streams <1350042> : uri <1836508> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178436 Archived-At: > "Whether you need to support gnutls 2.12.x is up to you. However, I note > that this version is totally unsupported, if it is broken or has a > critical bug you are on your own." Emacs doesn't use GnuTLS, the end-user does. I don't think it's Emacs's role to coerce the user into upgrading her libgnutls. > I hope that helps clarify things and perhaps convince you and others > that we should stop supporting GnuTLS 2.6.6 (the current minimum) or any > other 2.x GnuTLS release with Emacs 25. No, I still think the burden of supporting 2.6.6 is currently smaller than the cost of not supporting it. Stefan