From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 21:27:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbkovhh7.fsf@engster.org> <87387rvobr.fsf@engster.org> <83ppat84hk.fsf@gnu.org> <20150106143933.0090bc83@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83r3v77ij6.fsf@gnu.org> <20150106154539.3d0752c4@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87wq4ype3z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20150108083211.5a85a077@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420770507 29607 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2015 02:28:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 02:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, deng@randomsample.de, "Perry E. Metzger" To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 09 03:28:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9PIM-00080j-43 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 03:27:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48901 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9PIL-00033p-7S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 21:27:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53038) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9PI8-00033k-Jf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 21:27:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9PI7-0004Ia-UP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 21:27:12 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:51228) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9PI3-0004IJ-Fj; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 21:27:07 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t092R55u021814; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 21:27:06 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id ABC2853F; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 21:27:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 19:01:27 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5180=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5180> : inlines <1737> : streams <1370316> : uri <1841764> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181088 Archived-At: > LLVM is a real technical step forward, yoked to a step backward in > defending our freedom. If it were just the former, I would be > enthusiastic for it. However, the latter is more important, so we > must do our best to resist it, even temporarily. Why resist? We should instead embrace&extend. With GPL'd extensions, of course. Stefan