From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 23:33:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <83lfhnnew7.fsf@gnu.org> <20200906163418.3p2wuygb4osm76wa@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5263"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: spacibba@aol.com, eliz@gnu.org, =?windows-1252?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 05:34:43 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFUP5-0001Gs-Py for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 05:34:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57932 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFUP4-000491-PV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 23:34:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44810) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFUOb-0003iX-9u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 23:34:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:13546) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFUOZ-0002xH-4k; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 23:34:12 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 86E2B100279; Mon, 7 Sep 2020 23:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id EB17F10022A; Mon, 7 Sep 2020 23:33:59 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1599536040; bh=mS2LcWyKHVpKcpsYpoHT4g+5rDJuA24sYqiI4gBJpfs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=QBXbnEno9l+Yzfonb93DYlTc8r7tZAdo6WQFh/omXsvbVScTqES4OYpNV/wl+YeZs fBtog3VD6ZeZWF/+WAfRPF2s8MDbQNeL1B2Z+clVhYzRmTJQj/PZFuLkmzGu9pdPbn +5BNuGHZIFXmA4OkxhfCP3VvHFRLmUu7HpkqOYdGVNXcM6+Fdzn3CwbOlcAbzKgme3 i+gOqNUcfAxMmLSKTUVrfAS7EPbZ1sd5Fytk8Xp9mHvFtd6JzNjbgbeeVGPKmffPIg 9rzw+bGlz5GtK5eMlU64JWAULBS8xVwooXnnJ0FN456bO0W41H7pWy7WOt67k1mcRz Ho7vV5L/556LA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A8853120689; Mon, 7 Sep 2020 23:33:59 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:59:36 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/07 23:34:08 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254695 Archived-At: > I developed the first Emacs in Babylon in -1765. And according to Moore's law, the typical density of chips back then was a teeny tiny fraction of transistor. Stefan