From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again: Use monospaced fonts less Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:26:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83v9ftf6n9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7qfp6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft6lgw5y.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <1F8F3522-1E6C-40A3-B61A-B9B84FC0AD18@gnu.org> <87blh9gthg.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuv1f2y9.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8l9f1dl.fsf@gnus.org> <83lfgc50gb.fsf@gnu.org> <875z7gflpl.fsf@gnus.org> <83imbf2xux.fsf@gnu.org> <87lfgbarkk.fsf@gnus.org> <83zh4q195b.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgah1mjz.fsf@gnus.org> <83r1q0zwlp.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgagyoax.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10772"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 15 14:30:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kT2Oa-0002gP-6z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 14:30:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55098 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kT2OZ-0002Op-8j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:30:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33792) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kT2Km-0000w5-SK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:26:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:15943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kT2Kj-0007p1-Sy; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:26:16 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 71B04806C9; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0F1EA80A5E; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:26:11 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1602764771; bh=F9xJl7W0YCIYRHsL6W3TcyFfUPG2NVxtjXgrKK8Nfrg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=nkMn5JBskr3Drm9+VJeqjKiYRQvL+4ZTqU6QArsiSKFEl1EOxlNZ7RqIPAz8+Y6KC MLeCgroqEUERLeMZwpCfQajrNmXN354Y9eqgLxDrbI1RK2J/RuWsLkC7383Dsiy9ed DLKANo9ibLPUE1YfSobdHGv5oBK8tgciK6AIpKhcvf/nQIVCT+v6Ikwwd3oTsKzziE GwYqitFvYqlhP3eVIUCF6Ib/vB6fiRqxZE0yMIrrPHTKmGPxYv9fVQVW1uKheI7Z90 xp5+/gwzmNGA1JAdyh50mkIp4ljQDIf0MuNWzaao3c0xCMW4ByCmEyrMZEslRCGjfV 6hBdcGjYdNV0w== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D433412023D; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:26:10 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87sgagyoax.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:51:34 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/15 08:25:01 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257720 Archived-At: >>> Yes, this can be done. But we'd need fort to decide what is the >>> semantics of this: >>> >>> (setq mode-line-thing `(:propertize "%12b" :min-width 10)) >> >> One solution is to not use text-properties, e.g. > > I wasn't really thinking that the :min-width would be translated into > text properties at all here -- it's just an instruction to the mode line > rendering machinery. I sorry, I guess I read the `:propertize` too literally. Stefan