From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Internationalize Emacs's messages (swahili) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 16:45:52 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87o8ivumn5.fsf@telefonica.net> <83sg7xrgr5.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7odrdwy.fsf@gnu.org> <86sg7w39fh.fsf@163.com> <83pn30pku5.fsf@gnu.org> <86wnx8otoj.fsf@163.com> <834kkbp9vr.fsf@gnu.org> <87czyxuxw6.fsf@db48x.net> <87y2hlt82w.fsf@db48x.net> <87lfdlvsw4.fsf@logand.com> <83h7o8ncly.fsf@gnu.org> <87pn2wudab.fsf@db48x.net> <87mty0c3m1.fsf@gnus.org> <83czywnb86.fsf@gnu.org> <87im8ob707.fsf@gnus.org> <87eejcb6nx.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27097"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 26 22:47:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ktHPD-0006wM-PE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 22:47:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36578 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktHPC-00052m-QS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 16:47:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60928) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktHOO-0004cc-3Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 16:46:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:27222) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktHOJ-0000AR-Gr; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 16:46:26 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D1EB21004BD; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 16:46:21 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 62DD81004DF; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 16:45:54 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1609019154; bh=MxI0SwaEQcX22WOtPVJz5VrTpXWVagGhT5ysjribLd4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=V6DEB8vC2CwtdCyGJ+rDdcSNrtOTUfDq2T8nXBOGsLumAlyaNQIDsoH6ey96zkhJM 44u6LugATLJm1em/mETDslGaYJyzFEnIMcI7JHs3zER1Ca4Mx/77Ky/sd7qvTtJn9v LBMuAnvM9QpjyB63Ws2XgN9H9uzjFHY9yGhZ935IhQ3rEM2EImVVuyApaomC5Q3ouJ hom8ynZ5WqJ16C1zdIKsiW+ndp2FdGhdkVaoRZoHc0DJdPbWMiQ5Wskn+zB7ShkOpn RSGhP6Yqu0e8w7OGE40aCLDYSgRXGQVkn7FPVg2DFzomacKifJ/nev0S1ahbl73xxn qELYnkdlhuPeQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.243.191]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 191A712017E; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 16:45:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87eejcb6nx.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 26 Dec 2020 22:26:26 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261868 Archived-At: > Actually... looking a Flength, perhaps not adding an optional parameter > would be better. I mean, the only type that's not constant in time is > the length of lists, so I think perhaps it would just be confusing. > > Adding length=, length< and length> (as C functions) seems pretty > trivial -- punt to Flength for anything that's not a list, and handle > lists specially. Those would have clear semantics, be fast, not make > Flength calls any slower, and not add more complicated semantics to > Flength. I agree that adding an arg to `length` is probably not a good idea. But how serious is this need we're talking about? I mean we can already easily implement those things in ELisp: (defun length> (x n) "Non-nil if length of X is greater than N." (if (consp x) (nthcdr n x) (> (length x) n))) -- Stefan