From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Grammar checking in Emacs Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:28:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87k0h82v4k.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27021"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, mardani29@yahoo.es To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 15:30:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mmzTI-0006jV-Ev for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 15:30:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47888 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmzTH-0002ZM-4t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:30:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51116) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmzSH-0001EO-7i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:29:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:24729) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmzSE-0004Xg-3I; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:29:00 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CD58F80512; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:28:54 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id F17F1804AB; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:28:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1637072932; bh=/MzffQEjQKNZWHmTnBbRh2dtDf3DnWPcRiVj3oPoWCg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=IP3lY0rcKzmYBr3NEijif/ubnFBYZqcLT93MkYIUMavwOEZgd7FKoTknYvleI/ntb h0e7rhvXKjp1F+OvBpPZ4t+bWD9JBHlNjc8QaUnvuZjGhDWIIgB1PDkvdQz/s6g/vf +49cnP36oxYjREiEgdF346MFRveo8cwGzrzzVjFEAe/07zJxKMyEK4qq57RW9FJcMP rtCZJWZ+53cRzNgRWPBD5rvmck+zGoMHwPuzW5atWR1XfEcuHtXPovvCOZwR0utIf7 YHhSk/mRikitMnfdhg50GL8WFRLq6LxnbiSPG0szrPm9wh00iWZee1fRGEd2CgOov6 treSaoQZfJ26w== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.128.33]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B49A120815; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:28:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87k0h82v4k.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:32:59 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279563 Archived-At: > Not opposing Richard's statements in general, I would like to provide > several clarifications about LanguageTool: > 1. It does not _require_ a server but can be used as a command line tool > 2. It's source code is available via > git clone https://github.com/languagetool-org/languagetool > It is licensed under LGPL. Indeed. And IIUC the main reason why it's not in Debian (other than lack of time/dedication to package it up) seems to be that its language models have a murky copyright because they've been trained on text files whose copyright isn't itself clean. In my view, this is not a problem of software freedom, so I do consider LanguageTool to be philosophically perfectly acceptable. It's just technically rather annoying to install :-( [ Installing a JAR file is no solution, since you then have to worry about keeping it up-to-date. ] Stefan