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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  larsi@gnus.org,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Redisplay hook error bactraces [Was: Fontification error backtrace]
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 15:13:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvfsj4al3c.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ys3QIdoEqrFXMCKj@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue, 12 Jul 2022 19:48:49 +0000")

> +  /* If an error is signalled during a Lisp hook in redisplay, write a
> +     backtrace into the buffer *Backtrace*.  */
> +  if (!debugger_called && !NILP (error_symbol)
> +      && redisplay_lisping
> +      && backtrace_on_redisplay_lisp_error
> +      && (!backtrace_yet || !NILP (Vredisplay_last_error))
> +      && (NILP (clause) || h == redisplay_deep_handler)
> +      && NILP (Vinhibit_debugger)
> +      && !NILP (Ffboundp (Qdebug_early)))
> +    {
> +      max_ensure_room (&max_lisp_eval_depth, lisp_eval_depth, 100);
> +      specpdl_ref count = SPECPDL_INDEX ();
> +      ptrdiff_t counti = specpdl_ref_to_count (count);
> +      AUTO_STRING (backtrace, "*Backtrace*");
> +      Lisp_Object backtrace_buffer;
> +      AUTO_STRING (gap, "\n\n\n\n"); /* Separates backtraces in *Backtrace* */

I really think that printing the backtrace right when the error is
signaled is a bad idea.  Better just copy the whole specpdl (or just the
backtrace part of it) and leave the buffer manipulation and printing for
later when we're back in a normal&sane context.

It would be worthwhile doing all this work in the context of the error
if there was an upside such as the ability to do the debugging "live",
but since this is for the case where we'll be doing a "post-mortem
debugging" anyway, we're much better off doing as little as possible in
the context of the error: too many things can go wrong when running in
the context of the error, it's asking for trouble.


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-13 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-25 13:42 Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace? Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 15:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 15:30   ` Stefan Kangas
2022-06-25 15:52     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 16:27       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-06-25 15:35   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-25 15:59     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 16:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25 19:45         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-26  5:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-27 19:48             ` Fontification error backtrace [Was: Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace?] Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-28 11:43               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-28 11:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-28 17:28                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-28 18:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-28 19:31                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-29 19:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-12 19:48                         ` Redisplay hook error bactraces [Was: Fontification error backtrace] Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 12:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-13 18:41                             ` Redisplay hook error backtraces Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 19:00                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-13 20:12                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 20:49                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-14  5:12                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14  9:01                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14  9:10                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14 13:42                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14 13:59                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14 16:07                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14 16:18                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-14 19:47                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14 20:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-15  5:50                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-15 18:18                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-16  6:03                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14 17:09                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14 19:33                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-16  6:12                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-16 15:45                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 19:13                           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2022-07-13 19:24                             ` Redisplay hook error bactraces [Was: Fontification error backtrace] Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-13 19:58                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 20:45                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-30 20:34                       ` Fontification error backtrace [Was: Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace?] Stefan Monnier
2022-07-01  5:39                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-01 15:34                           ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-01 16:04                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-01 19:14                               ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-01 19:26                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-02  5:53                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02 21:15                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-02 20:27                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-02 21:12                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-26  8:45 ` Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace? Stefan Monnier

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