From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Call for volunteers: add tree-sitter support to major modes Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2022 23:04:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83czb1jrm3.fsf@gnu.org> <83y1tphwu8.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32662"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Brian Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 10 05:06:36 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ohj7k-0008O6-Er for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 05:06:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52036 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohj7j-0003D4-1Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2022 23:06:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52732) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohj6A-0002Ta-2i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2022 23:04:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:42842) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohj5v-0003J9-U9; Sun, 09 Oct 2022 23:04:56 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1B650442270; Sun, 9 Oct 2022 23:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 83D004421DC; Sun, 9 Oct 2022 23:04:35 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1665371075; bh=fI/IT/Wl7ttlrXlwYojtu8t74Gm4lqo3MeYygJR8Vkw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=DePsYA0TzqGYRVeL1wLOZAVJllfEeVrO6xhHmJp4yxdQgarezBa4ZRfuNg6+nJTPX HpoBsRtVhAMuNhXXEi89paRhvfiQ+WlvtDBXDm0/oEbskeC7AO8mjGdRT0S7YXWX3G vHvoYLJea30eeKpyu5XuYED0crvbPip6AzGzwbOs4xcjTKqVJGKJJvT+iwc2IEPEYg 8t0J5J46LY5gHJW1/p5m0MaWye21n4078TYslEiQCOHlCgbkP70UoOFAmGPGTJO0xx spo1qXgHWbozjHLtWaEedoPm3s1mX4lflEpHbDL2GNGu9h6ycUYfoel23JzYYUGWm8 M4kYYw7DGc1Zg== Original-Received: from pastel (65-110-220-202.cpe.pppoe.ca [65.110.220.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 34682120DC0; Sun, 9 Oct 2022 23:04:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Brian's message of "Sun, 9 Oct 2022 15:20:41 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297304 Archived-At: > I do not understand why only one person is credited if it is a > collective effort. Why does Emacs files have author fields, what > Is their significance, history? I don't have an official answer to give, but for all the packages to which I contributed, I've usually seen something like the following happen: - Someone write a package. When they distribute it they naturally put "Author:" there with their name and email address (not necessarily for fame but rather in order to provide a point of contact for feedback). - Time passes, other people start contributing to it. - Nobody dares to say that "I'm the author" since that would be a lie, so they don't touch the "Author:" line and just either leave their name out because they don't care about recognition and feedback, or put themselves as "Maintainer:". So in the end `Author:` all too often means the one who got the original impetus. Which fraction of the overall work that turns out to be depends a lot on the package. At the same time, in most cases, the original impetus imposes a general direction/design/approach/vision which tends to persist long after that author stepped down. Stefan