From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 19:03:45 -0500 Message-ID: References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87fsew8g18.fsf@posteo.net> <83mt941cyd.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsewp0ec.fsf@posteo.net> <837d0814c9.fsf@gnu.org> <878rkooz1o.fsf@posteo.net> <831qqg1306.fsf@gnu.org> <874jvcowzm.fsf@posteo.net> <83y1soypvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1song5x.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8nsyof7.fsf@gnu.org> <87leoond7l.fsf@posteo.net> <87mt90tyns.fsf@thaodan.de> <87o7tgfw4m.fsf@posteo.net> <87eductx0x.fsf@thaodan.de> <871qqcfs9y.fsf@posteo.net> <875yfotn63.fsf@thaodan.de> <87r0yc9g4u.fsf@posteo.net> <87tu37sxky.fsf@thaodan.de> <87h6z797rf.fsf@posteo.net> <871qqbk8jf.fsf@thaodan.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7013"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Philip Kaludercic , Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?windows-1252?Q?Bj=F6rn?= Bidar Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 10 01:04:58 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1osv3y-0001WU-1u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2022 01:04:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osv3D-0006St-EY; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 19:04:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osv39-0006RQ-AZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 19:04:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osv34-0006xA-Hb; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 19:04:04 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 8C79E10011A; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 19:03:58 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D73491000F3; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 19:03:49 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1668038629; bh=aRKeNL3Ob01DDUvr83y1yEQhk8Ugpjc4R6s6Pm9Zkps=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=Shj7a75N713bUADEzfCB5fjH/RmofSgLuO4ayoeJkl0oFKXd4O10WniL2Y2mr389M s1ubvSfyLYp97L4Xnh9LbrYmlsaS22Wyi1aHhpI6Bgqq5xNE6LdYndmqVx9q08mfLP GDHfGHFSPq30iKtoKfIi8csLxcAaVG4M8oumvF3xeEAt1aQgjs4rJ9AW+bM8qqWniC ETjse2iUhhffVC3zPLT+ZTLGGeU7iQVq/+CTbjA+7OAZlmsoPO3Mf9bSUbGfIeaoge jty4FkRV/5AXRr3UwXPF0JOG8RTrPnAdvfEJ1slEaUqrTe6u+TH9ieI5xoXtmIoo8a 4+eq75bvQzFEg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.241.157]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D0F2120B07; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 19:03:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <871qqbk8jf.fsf@thaodan.de> (=?windows-1252?Q?=22Bj=F6rn?= Bidar"'s message of "Thu, 10 Nov 2022 01:33:24 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299446 Archived-At: > Which makes it by design less reproduceable unless it vc keeps track of > all the version control information like last ref of that package and > its source. But I assume that's what's done here. VC is just a thin layer over Git, just like Magit only much more limited (in exchange for working with the VCSs). AFAIK neither of them worries about "keep[ing] track of all the version control information like last ref of that package and its source". They let Git worry about that. After you `package-vc-install`, you can use Magit to your heart's content on the resulting clone. > Something like make bootstrap could be very useful e.g. to use your > configuration on another machine, so that emacs can start after all > packages needed in init.el are present. > https://emacsmirror.net/manual/borg/Using-your-configuration-on-another-machine.html `package-(vc-)selected-packages` is designed for that kind of purpose. Stefan