From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide 'CUA-mode) Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:12:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <85fyj4bl8p.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20060520.211854.71848142.wl@gnu.org> <85lkswa29b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <44701B91.60606@swipnet.se> <44715093.4020906@swipnet.se> <4472AB5F.9090305@swipnet.se> <85zmh9ywtc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <44730F23.4010507@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148393565 16221 80.91.229.2 (23 May 2006 14:12:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 14:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 23 16:12:41 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiXcm-0000g5-0V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 16:12:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiXck-0007q3-0w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 10:12:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiXcZ-0007pk-G8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 10:12:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiXcW-0007p2-Uj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 10:12:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiXcW-0007oz-PQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 10:12:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.25] (helo=tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FiXge-0005ju-Hz; Tue, 23 May 2006 10:16:40 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([70.53.195.38]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20060523141217.UULY18394.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@localhost>; Tue, 23 May 2006 10:12:17 -0400 Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2C6478258; Tue, 23 May 2006 10:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-Reply-To: <44730F23.4010507@student.lu.se> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Tue, 23 May 2006 15:33:23 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55135 Archived-At: >> After all, "M-x" is easy enough to type when the Alt >> key is Meta, and Alt being Meta is rather desirable. > Is it not better to follow the standard for Gnome and other platforms where > it is possible? Does not Alt beeing META clash with these? Would it not be > better to have Alt as META as an option? Could not that be good for both new > and old users? This is not decided by Emacs. If both Alt and Meta are available, Emacs does distinguish between them. It's only if Meta is not available that Emacs treats Alt as Meta. Given that some apps use Meta (e.g. Emacs) while others use Alt but a vanishingly small number use both, I prefer to configure xmodmap so as to only have one of the two, in order to remove this gratuitous distinction. Stefan