From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tabulated-list-init-header and glyphless-char-display Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 10:56:27 -0300 Message-ID: References: <83lizku01h.fsf@gnu.org> <87wrj390v1.fsf@gmail.com> <83aafztyhy.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302357418 4971 80.91.229.12 (9 Apr 2011 13:56:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 13:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, =?utf-8?B?xaB0xJtww6FuIE7Em21lYw==?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 09 15:56:51 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8Yec-0006MO-JY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 15:56:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53653 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q8Yec-0004HD-2L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 09:56:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42184 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q8YeT-0004Fc-8H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 09:56:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8YeS-0007J0-8T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 09:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:32850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8YeS-0007Iv-6m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 09:56:36 -0400 Original-Received: from 213-159-126-200.fibertel.com.ar ([200.126.159.213]:45183 helo=ceviche.home) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8YeR-0008Vy-9U; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 09:56:35 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D5ED3660B0; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 09:56:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83aafztyhy.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 09 Apr 2011 15:12:09 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138327 Archived-At: >> Both characters display fine for me in urxvt and xterm, and even in >> the linux console (displayed as up/down arrows instead of triangles) >> on a Debian system. Just a data point. > That's exactly the _only_ terminal encoding where these characters can Still, that covers pretty much *all* terminals under GNU/Linux systems. And IIUC the same holds for Mac OS X terminals, so the only significant counter example is the Windows terminals (does putty support/encourage utf-8?). But your point still holds true: we want/need to properly handle the case where the terminal cannot display those chars. I think that glyphless-char-display-control sounds like a good way to attack the problem. Stefan