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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>
Cc: Dmitry Antipov <dmantipov@yandex.ru>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r109327: Generalize INTERNAL_FIELD between buffers, keyboards and frames.
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:41:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvehnh1s3d.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r4rigihu.fsf@gnu.org> (Chong Yidong's message of "Wed, 08 Aug 2012 11:39:09 +0800")

> Another problem, which I haven't seen mentioned in this thread, is that
> when you see C code which does FVAR (x, y) the natural assumption is
> that x and y are C variables.  So these macros hurt code readability.

> The introduction of BVAR also violated this principle, and I'm not eager
> to see the problem compounded.

Yes, we should see about fixing this problem.

> I think FSET/WSET/PSET/PGET/etc should be removed from the trunk, at
> least for now.  I recommend moving the generational GC work to a branch.

I'm OK with keeping macros for the assignments.  But I'd like to hear
suggestions to reduce/eliminate the problem you mention (of field names
looking like variables).
Depending on the write-barrier, "FSET (foo->bar, val)" can be used, but
most write-barriers want to access other parts of "foo" rather than only
"foo->bar".
Maybe SET_FIELD (foo, bar, val) would be slightly better: "bar" still
looks like a variable, but at least the macro name hints at the fact
that there's a field somewhere in there.

> Isn't the point of Coccinelle to make it possible to transform the code
> with minimal manual intervention?

IIUC Coccinelle helps the work, but there is still a fair bit of manual
intervention needed afterwards, so it's not quite that simple.


        Setfan



      parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-08 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2012-08-01 10:33 ` [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r109327: Generalize INTERNAL_FIELD between buffers, keyboards and frames Stefan Monnier
2012-08-01 12:04   ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-01 14:58     ` Paul Eggert
2012-08-01 16:52       ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-01 17:38       ` Tom Tromey
2012-08-01 21:04         ` Paul Eggert
2012-08-02  5:28         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-08-01 15:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-01 18:02       ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-02 15:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-01 23:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-02  4:12       ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-02  5:56         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-08-02  7:47           ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-02  9:30             ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-08-02 16:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-02 15:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-02 21:28             ` Paul Eggert
2012-08-03  6:27               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-03  6:52                 ` Paul Eggert
2012-08-02 23:38           ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-02 15:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-03  7:42         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-03  8:31           ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-03 18:58             ` Paul Eggert
2012-08-03 22:52               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-04 16:31                 ` Paul Eggert
2012-08-05 15:03                   ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-06 10:54                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-06 11:44                       ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-06 16:31                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-06 17:43                           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-08  7:22                         ` Chong Yidong
2012-08-05 14:59               ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-05 15:23                 ` Paul Eggert
2012-08-05 20:29                   ` Miles Bader
2012-08-03 22:50             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-03 23:11               ` Wojciech Meyer
2012-08-08  3:39           ` Chong Yidong
2012-08-08  7:14             ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-08  7:46               ` Chong Yidong
2012-08-08 10:18                 ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-08 12:41             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]

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