From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fixing package-initialize, adding early init file Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:58:14 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506358739 11309 195.159.176.226 (25 Sep 2017 16:58:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:58:59 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Radon Rosborough Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 25 18:58:56 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwWib-0002UW-I5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 18:58:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43477 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwWii-0000HL-KE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:59:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60379) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwWi7-0000Fo-Gy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:58:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwWi2-0008Rq-Mj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:58:23 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:33609) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwWi2-0008QZ-HS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:58:18 -0400 Original-Received: from lechazo.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id v8PGwEn9025333; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:58:15 -0400 Original-Received: by lechazo.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E050760366; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:58:14 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Radon Rosborough's message of "Mon, 25 Sep 2017 09:27:28 -0700") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6123=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6123> : inlines <6088> : streams <1764566> : uri <2506382> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218777 Archived-At: >> BTW, in a subsequent patch we could rename this to >> package-initialized, so the name reflects what the variable contains >> rather than what it's used for. > I don't think that's a good idea, since the most common usage of this > variable will be > (setq package-initialized nil) > in the early init file, and that doesn't make much sense from a > readability perspective (are we asserting that package.el wasn't > initialized?). Why would there be (setq package-initialized nil) in the early init file? I could imagine there being (setq package-initialized t) OTOH, to inhibit subsequent initialization of package.el. Stefan