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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] * etc/NEWS: Document incompatibilities introduced by record types.
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 09:12:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvefnxtna2.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1ePG2e-0005aX-PL@fencepost.gnu.org

>> I'm just really puzzled by all the strong reactions for a problem that's
>> so% hypothetical, 
> It is not hypothetical.  I am sure people will define such types in
> their code, and get screwed.

[ Just because you're convinced it will happen doesn't make it less
  hypothetical.  AFAICT it has never happened so far.  ]
The 20 years of experience with cl.el's defstruct, plus the 10 years of
experience with eieio's defclass seem to disagree.

> Since we agree that defining these symbols as record types should not
> be done, let's make it easier for programmers to avoid doing that.

I won't get in the way of someone else doing that, *as long as* it's
done via compilation-time (or even load-time) checks rather than
run-time checks (i.e. not in make-record).


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-14 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-11 21:37 [PATCH] * etc/NEWS: Document incompatibilities introduced by record types Philipp Stephani
2017-12-11 22:25 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-12-21 16:35   ` Philipp Stephani
2017-12-12  3:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-12 19:13   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-12-12 20:45     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-13 23:00       ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-14 14:08         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-14 22:16           ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-14 23:41             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-15 21:25               ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-14 22:17           ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-22 10:06             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-21 17:29       ` Philipp Stephani
2017-12-13 23:00     ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-14 14:07       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-12 22:06   ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-12 22:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-13 15:41       ` Sam Steingold
2017-12-13 16:30         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-13 23:03       ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-14 14:13         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-13  1:03     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-13  1:12       ` Noam Postavsky
2017-12-13  1:29         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-13 17:40           ` Stephen Leake
2017-12-13 23:02           ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-14 14:12             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-12-14 22:16               ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-14 22:16               ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-21 17:34         ` Philipp Stephani
2017-12-21 18:43           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-22 18:46             ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-22 19:39               ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Stefan Monnier
2017-12-23 14:56                 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-23 14:56                 ` make-record Richard Stallman
2017-12-23 15:53                   ` make-record Stefan Monnier
2017-12-24 20:35                     ` make-record Richard Stallman
2017-12-26  2:43                       ` make-record Stefan Monnier
2017-12-26 19:41                         ` make-record Richard Stallman
2017-12-12 22:05 ` [PATCH] * etc/NEWS: Document incompatibilities introduced by record types Richard Stallman

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