From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:01:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20191117113054.49837.qmail@mail.muc.de> <87pnhq7mxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87bltaz9g4.fsf@telefonica.net> <834kz25qp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2wexsv1.fsf@telefonica.net> <20191118175639.08d02820@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <874kz0pa9y.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgmjyn60.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="238920"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?windows-1252?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes , Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Michael Albinus , Lars Ingebrigtsen , "Perry E. Metzger" To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 20 15:02:25 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iXQYq-00102A-TM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:02:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58384 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iXQYp-0005X2-Jo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:02:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46699) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iXQYL-0005Wk-Sl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:01:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iXQYI-0008Ia-Ne for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:01:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:39374) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iXQYF-0008HU-IE; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:01:49 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B4817449FE1; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:01:45 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 61800449FDE; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:01:44 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1574258504; bh=9oLLWrNECM6j+ZL/cwhGKo12TBf+x6Bie9t74n3XLJk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=YUBUNe6QPBtlq9WI0RP1nSguNd7I2cC1xtJ+j5zp9eKoIQhxGIjD751DzoQXgdCKQ 8HRe7O4yxZXGTgsGMvLfPvFnK62ISJGe5PZEiQFEE3BG2hzz3YlTAnzFeOl9PNhzpy 4dwFlhv9YdqheIw7q9YfSZol4yfqJKK+K9U/B2lQ1Wc6ce+y/PFGIvDVHArPnKT2vb W1thCpN36DkZ9QdWwCKmdC3DUtacMHJPj8zCxQdy5J8xtISbEeRKXx5UtV8DlN8oSn cwSYe+LC7caGUVbRQ7VnuMQCKzQx7Y/mL6CpfoTgzjaUvnIjxn2QSs36aqA6X+IfW4 lttgnLdK3cjXA== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [216.154.18.30]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 022B61203F3; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:01:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 20 Nov 2019 11:11:08 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242487 Archived-At: >> You need an account if you want to write a new bug report ("issue") in >> Gitlab, even for public projects. No problem for Emacs developers, they >> will have an account on Emacs' Gitlab stanza. But we will miss bug >> reports from Emacs users, which usually have no account there. > It has OAuth support, users could log in using an account from a number of > popular services. So that should be a non-issue. I don't think that's good enough. Maybe we could do the following: 1- Get a new Gitlab feature which allows anonymous users to subscribe arbitrary email addresses to an issue. 2- Then we can build an email gateway from bug-gnu-emacs to Gitlab which adds the bug report (under some "gateway-bot" user) as a new issue and then subscribes the original submitter's email so they get an email copy on any activity to the bug. 3- Presumably any such email-copy comes with a specially crafted "From:" address such that replying to that email adds the reply as a comment in the issue. I don't know if Gitlab has feature (3) already, but Github does so I presume that it's not a problematic feature. As for feature (1), while I understand that authentication is usually necessary to reduce the risks of abuse, I think that such a feature would be fairly low-risk (not much higher than the risk associated to allowing anyone with a working email address to register). Stefan